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Stagecraft Digest, Issue #347

 1. Re: box office
    by "Alf Sauve" <alf [at] sauve.org>
 2. Re: box office
    by Bruce Purdy <bpurdy [at] rochester.rr.com>
 3. Re: Where can I access the archives and a Marley question
    by Al Fitch <fitchal [at] yahoo.com>
 4. Lighting research
    by "Zirngibl, Ryan John" <ZIRNGIRJ [at] uwec.edu>
 5. Reccomendations for NYC shows in may/june?
    by Dale Farmer <dale [at] cybercom.net>
 6. Re: Lighting research
    by "Weston Wilkerson" <weston_wilkerson [at] hotmail.com>
 7. Re: Lighting research
    by Mike Brubaker <mdbrubaker [at] insightbb.com>
 8. Re: Photos of electrical practice
    by Michael Powers <mfpowers [at] theater.umass.edu>
 9. Re: A/C Power Cable /  Name that Amperage
    by Ford H Sellers <fhs4 [at] cornell.edu>
10. Re: Photos of electrical practice
    by Michael Powers <mfpowers [at] theater.umass.edu>
11. Re: Lighting research
    by doran [at] bard.edu
12. Re: Lighting research
    by Brian Munroe <bpmunroe [at] gmail.com>
13. Re: Photos of electrical practice
    by Delbert Hall <delbert.hall [at] gmail.com>
14. Re: Photos of electrical practice
    by "Jonathan S. Deull" <jdeull [at] clarktransfer.com>
15. Re: Lighting research
    by anna labykina <ani_td [at] yahoo.com>
16. Re: Photos of electrical practice
    by "LES LIND" <lindl [at] nesd.k12.pa.us>
17. Re: Photos of electrical practice
    by Stephen Litterst <slitterst [at] ithaca.edu>
18. Re: Laptop Battery (OT)
    by Jerry Durand <jdurand [at] interstellar.com>
19. Re: box office
    by Marty_Petlock [at] sarasotagov.com
20. Re: Stretchin' marley
    by Marty_Petlock [at] sarasotagov.com
21. Re: Stretchin' marley
    by IAEG [at] aol.com
22. Re: Stretchin' marley
    by Stephen Litterst <slitterst [at] ithaca.edu>
23. Fake Razor Wire and Rough Hewn Poles
    by "Michael Wade" <mike [at] focusnote.com>
24. Re: Photos of electrical practice
    by "ladesigners [at] juno.com" <ladesigners [at] juno.com>
25. stickers
    by Jerry Durand <jdurand [at] interstellar.com>
26. Re: Projector Issues
    by CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
27. Re: Breakfast?  VERY OT
    by CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
28. Re: Projector Issues
    by Mike Brubaker <mdbrubaker [at] insightbb.com>
29. Re: Projector Issues
    by Jerry Durand <jdurand [at] interstellar.com>
30. Re: Projector Issues
    by Boyd Ostroff <ostroff [at] operaphilly.com>
31. Re: Fake Razor Wire and Rough Hewn Poles
    by Ford H Sellers <fhs4 [at] cornell.edu>
32. Re: Projector Issues
    by Stephen Litterst <slitterst [at] ithaca.edu>
33. Re: Fake Razor Wire and Rough Hewn Poles
    by "Dre Suchoski" <Dsuchoski [at] olneytheatre.org>
34. Re: Projector Issues
    by Stephen Litterst <slitterst [at] ithaca.edu>
35. Re: Breakfast?  VERY OT
    by Bill Sapsis <bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com>
36. Re: Where can I access the archives and a Marley question
    by Greg Williams <gwilliams [at] appstate.edu>
37. Re: Photos of electrical practice
    by Bill Sapsis <bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com>
38. Re: Photos of electrical practice
    by Herrick Goldman <Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>
39. Re: Projector Issues
    by Jerry Durand <jdurand [at] interstellar.com>
40. Re: Photos of electrical practice
    by Dale Farmer <dale [at] cybercom.net>
41. Re: Photos of electrical practice
    by Mark O'Brien <marko [at] email.arizona.edu>
42. LED question
    by Jerry Durand <jdurand [at] interstellar.com>
43. Re: LED question
    by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
44. Re: Laptop Battery (OT)
    by Scott Parker <scparker [at] gmail.com>
45. Re: Live Sound Effect
    by "Tony" <deeming.tony [at] btinternet.com>
46. Re: Laptop Battery (OT)
    by "Occy" <OneOccy [at] hotmail.com>
47. Re: Photos of electrical practice
    by "Tony" <deeming.tony [at] btinternet.com>
48. branson
    by David Wetmore <davidfitwe [at] mac.com>
49. Re: Laptop Battery (OT)
    by Herrick Goldman <Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>
50. Re: Breakfast?  VERY OT
    by "Tony" <deeming.tony [at] btinternet.com>
51. stage illusion
    by "RODOK!!!" <rodok [at] telus.net>
52. Altman Micro-Ellipse Flickers?
    by "Jonathan S. Deull" <jdeull [at] clarktransfer.com>
53. Re: Altman Micro-Ellipse Flickers?
    by Stephen Litterst <slitterst [at] ithaca.edu>
54. Re: Still Life with Iris
    by "Tony Olson" <ajolson [at] charter.net>
55. Re: Projector Issues
    by Greg Bierly <gbierly [at] dejazzd.com>

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Message-ID: <001801c53459$09d365f0$0400a8c0 [at] ALFOFFICE>
Reply-To: "Alf Sauve" <alf [at] sauve.org>
From: "Alf Sauve" <alf [at] sauve.org>
Subject: Re: box office
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 07:15:43 -0500

I had always imagined that the name came from the fact many were separate, 
 box-like offices in front of the theatre.  Of course, I have an active 
 imagination at times!
 
 Alf


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Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 08:04:14 -0500
Subject: Re: box office
From: Bruce Purdy <bpurdy [at] rochester.rr.com>
Message-ID: <BE6EBC7D.637D%bpurdy [at] rochester.rr.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-21500199 [at] prxy.net>

> I had always imagined that the name came from the fact many were separate,
> box-like offices in front of the theatre.  Of course, I have an active
> imagination at times!

This was my belief as well

Bruce
-- 
Bruce Purdy
Technical Director
Smith Opera House



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Message-ID: <20050329142528.5683.qmail [at] web51401.mail.yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 06:25:28 -0800 (PST)
From: Al Fitch <fitchal [at] yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Where can I access the archives and a Marley question
In-Reply-To: <list-21498430 [at] prxy.net>

No wonder they couldn't make their mark last night!


Mark O'Brien wrote:

>
> That would be _brake CLEAN_
>
> Not brake fluid.

Al Fitch

Be Kind, Smile and Have Fun.


		
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Subject: Lighting research
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 09:50:51 -0600
Message-ID: <5CF1C3D95785A143A3E33ACFD864609B03834574 [at] PEPSI.uwec.edu>
From: "Zirngibl, Ryan John" <ZIRNGIRJ [at] uwec.edu>

=20
Howdy,

I was wondering if I could get help from the list on finding a
site/book, whatever that may have historical lighting
fixtures/chandeliers.  I am ALD for a production of Laughter on the 23rd
Floor and I've been asked to try to find some fixtures, but have had a
horrible time finding much of anything, so any help you could give would
be much appreciated.  Thanks!

Ryan J. Zirngibl
Student - Theatre Arts
Scenic Design
University of Wisconsin - Eau Claire

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Message-ID: <42497BBA.5382D4BF [at] cybercom.net>
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 11:00:58 -0500
From: Dale Farmer <dale [at] cybercom.net>
Organization: The  fuzz in the back of the fridge. 
Subject: Reccomendations for NYC shows in may/june?

  My mum came to me for assistance with the amtrak web site
yesterday.  She and my dad are considering a day or three in
NYC in a month or so, and so I'm asking for recommendations
for shows they should see.  Mom is a retired grade school
music teacher, and dad played the trombone before he got
asthma, so a musical would probably be good.   One which
they could chat with some of the musicians and/or the
conductor afterwards would be a plus.  Cost is an issue,
they are living on rather slim pensions, but schedule is
pretty flexible, as they are retired.

    Thanks.

    --Dale


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In-Reply-To: <list-21503549 [at] prxy.net>
From: "Weston Wilkerson" <weston_wilkerson [at] hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: Lighting research
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 11:07:53 -0500

<html><div style='background-color:'><P>&gt;&gt;I was wondering if I could get help from the list on finding a<BR>&gt;site/book, whatever that may have historical lighting <BR>&gt;fixtures/chandeliers. </P>
<P><BR>St Louis Antique Lighting is great, but I cannot find a website.<BR>Remains Lighting <A href="http://www.remains.com/Antiques/AntiHome.asp">www.remains.com/Antiques/AntiHome.asp</A></P>
<P>Be ready to pay big $$$</P>
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Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.0.20050329111257.01e6bf78 [at] mail.insightbb.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 11:15:44 -0500
From: Mike Brubaker <mdbrubaker [at] insightbb.com>
Subject: Re: Lighting research
In-Reply-To: <list-21503549 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-21503549 [at] prxy.net>

Roger W. Moss.  Lighting for Historic Buildings.  The Preservation Press, 
1988.  I think that the IESNA (Illuminating Engineering Society of North 
America) sells it.  It's a good visual resource for period light fixtures.

Mike Brubaker

At 10:50 AM 3/29/2005, Zirngibl, Ryan John wrote:

>site/book, whatever that may have historical lighting
>fixtures/chandeliers.  I am ALD for a production of Laughter on the 23rd


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Message-ID: <42498287.20904 [at] theater.umass.edu>
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 11:29:59 -0500
From: Michael Powers <mfpowers [at] theater.umass.edu>
Subject: Re: Photos of electrical practice

Scott Parker <scparker [at] gmail.com> writes:

The short answer: Light Board....

longer answer: The black handles pull/push the rods ........ are resistance
dimmers ..........................


Scott,

Don't forget to mention the longer handle in the back is the "Master" handle.  It is connected to the others by a slotted shaft inside the connecting tube.  The individual handles can "lock"  or "unlock" into the shaft by twisting the handle 90 degrees CW or CCW.  For a blackout you would place the Master handle at the level of the dimmer reading the highest, then pre-twist all the other handles so that they would "click" in as the master handle was brought down.  A proportional fade up was accomplished by "dropping off" or "un-clicking" individual handles as their settings were reached.  

Of course there were lots of other techniques for operating various types of interlocking dimmers, piano boards and such.  Things like a three dimmer board (1x3 pine about 12" long) a 4 or 5 dimmer board (again, pieces of 1x3 about 18" & 14" long respectively), the knee cue, the sit cue ( also known as the A** cue or Butt cue) and of course the ubiquitous crotch cue.  

Ahhh!  The thrill of running two 14 plate piano boards face to face in July, without AC, and pulling off a 28 dimmer proportional fade in time with the music. The agony of seeing amber (or any other color of light) on stage in a blackout and knowing that circuit had lost a lamp and you were going to have to kill the switch on that dimmer every blackout the rest of the night (and remember to switch it back on just as you started the next up cue with that dimmer).

Michael
 
Michael Powers, Technical Director
UMass Amherst
112 FAC West
Amherst, Ma. 01003

413-545-6821 Voice
413-577-0025 Fax 

mfpowers [at] theater.umass.edu <mailto:mfpowers [at] theater.umass.edu>
mptecdir [at] aol.com <mailto:mptecdir [at] aol.com>

 



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Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20050329113507.025c1bb8 [at] postoffice8.mail.cornell.edu>
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 11:41:32 -0500
From: Ford H Sellers <fhs4 [at] cornell.edu>
Subject: Re: A/C Power Cable /  Name that Amperage
In-Reply-To: <list-21421200 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-21405433 [at] prxy.net>


>
>"Jeffrey E. Salzberg" wrote:
>
> > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> > ---------------------------------------------------
> >
> > > We could bring pictures of those terrible scary
> > > installations we've all stumbled on and have a "shock the
> > > electrician" poster session...
> >
> > I wish I had a photo of the most...interesting...adaptor I ever saw -- a
> > 2P&G stage plug on one end and a 1/4" phone plug on the other.

At the MGM Conference Center we used to keep a "Welders Plug" (5 pin 50amp) 
to 2 XLR & 1 L6-20 "Adaptor" around to figure out which new/on-call 
employees might possibly have a clue.
The ones who looked at it and said,"What in the hell?!?!?" might be OK.
The ones who looked at it and shrugged....Well let's just say we NEVER let 
them near the PD.

-Ford

************************
Ford H Sellers
Master Electrician
Cornell University
Schwartz Center for the Performing Arts
430 College Avenue
Ithaca NY, 14850
(607) 254-2736  office
(607) 254-2733  fax 



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Message-ID: <4249895F.9040205 [at] theater.umass.edu>
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 11:59:11 -0500
From: Michael Powers <mfpowers [at] theater.umass.edu>
Subject: Re: Photos of electrical practice
References: <42498287.20904 [at] theater.umass.edu>
In-Reply-To: <42498287.20904 [at] theater.umass.edu>

Michael Powers wrote:

> .......................... a 4 or 5 dimmer board (again, pieces of 1x3 
> about 18" & 14" long............. respectively),

That should have read  "  ......   18" & 24" long ...."

Michael
 
Michael Powers, Technical Director
UMass Amherst
112 FAC West
Amherst, Ma. 01003

413-545-6821 Voice
413-577-0025 Fax 

mfpowers [at] theater.umass.edu <mailto:mfpowers [at] theater.umass.edu>
mptecdir [at] aol.com <mailto:mptecdir [at] aol.com>

 




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Message-ID: <1112115646.424989beb9e40 [at] webmail.bard.edu>
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 12:00:46 -0500
From: doran [at] bard.edu
Subject: Re: Lighting research
References: <list-21503549 [at] prxy.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-21503549 [at] prxy.net>

Ryan,

Try the link below.  Lot's of in-stock fixtures.  Good catalogue.
http://www.rensup.com/Categories/Cat-324.htm

Good Luck,
Andy Champ-Doran
Bard College Departments of Dance and Theater



Quoting "Zirngibl, Ryan John" <ZIRNGIRJ [at] uwec.edu>:
> I was wondering if I could get help from the list on finding a
> site/book, whatever that may have historical lighting
> fixtures/chandeliers.  > Ryan J. Zirngibl
> Student - Theatre Arts
> Scenic Design
> University of Wisconsin - Eau Claire



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Message-ID: <b7aa280105032909012ffd0f2d [at] mail.gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 12:01:54 -0500
From: Brian Munroe <bpmunroe [at] gmail.com>
Reply-To: Brian Munroe <bpmunroe [at] gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Lighting research
In-Reply-To: <list-21503549 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-21503549 [at] prxy.net>

I was on tour with "Laughter on the 23rd Floor" several years ago
(Marty - played a one night stand at The Purple Cow).

We had 2 flourescent lighting fixtures hanging from the ceiling.  I
don't remember any other period fixtures in the show.

Brian Munroe
bpmunroe [at] gmail.com


On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 09:50:51 -0600, Zirngibl, Ryan John
<ZIRNGIRJ [at] uwec.edu> wrote:
 
> Howdy,
> 
> I was wondering if I could get help from the list on finding a
> site/book, whatever that may have historical lighting
> fixtures/chandeliers.  I am ALD for a production of Laughter on the 23rd
> Floor and I've been asked to try to find some fixtures, but have had a
> horrible time finding much of anything, so any help you could give would
> be much appreciated.  Thanks!

------------------------------

Message-ID: <b7318c4805032909591b284065 [at] mail.gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 12:59:08 -0500
From: Delbert Hall <delbert.hall [at] gmail.com>
Reply-To: Delbert Hall <delbert.hall [at] gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Photos of electrical practice
In-Reply-To: <list-21504071 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-21504071 [at] prxy.net>

> Ahhh!  The thrill of running two 14 plate piano boards face to face in July, without AC, 

Been there, done that (mine was a one 24 plate unit, but it sure put
out the heat).  Also, remember that if the load is not balanced, you
cannot achieve a blackout.  In these cases you have to set up a
"ghostload" somewhere to balance the dimmer.

I guess most of the young whipper-snapper technicians have never had
the pleasure of working with this kind of fine lighting equipment.

-Delbert

-- 
Delbert Hall
Phone: 423-772-4255

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From: "Jonathan S. Deull" <jdeull [at] clarktransfer.com>
Cc: delbert.hall [at] gmail.com ('Delbert Hall')
Subject: RE: Photos of electrical practice
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 13:10:22 -0500
In-Reply-To: <list-21505128 [at] prxy.net>
Message-ID: <auto-000021505173 [at] prxy.net>

Ahhh!  The thrill of running two 14 plate piano boards face to face in July,
without AC,


Brings back many "fond" memories...

Jonathan




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Message-ID: <20050329184841.58167.qmail [at] web50106.mail.yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 10:48:40 -0800 (PST)
From: anna labykina <ani_td [at] yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Lighting research
In-Reply-To: 6667

Ryan,

also look at Rejuvenation comany:
http://www.rejuvenation.com/

Portland, Ore. based company that manufactures copies
of historical lighting and hardware.  Alos very
pricey, but good research.

Anna


		
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Message-Id: <s2496336.053 [at] ac3.nesd.k12.pa.us>
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 14:16:04 -0500
From: "LES LIND" <lindl [at] nesd.k12.pa.us>
Subject: Re: Photos of electrical practice

I don't remember much about the boards at York Little Theatre except in
the 70's it was up in a loft and it took about 3 to 4 people to run the
board for a "big" show. And we had a lot of fun. Every evening the
followspot operator always layed his Kentucky Fried Chicken on top of
the unit to keep it warm.
Ahhh yes, memories.

Les Lind, TD
NHS Dramatics
Northeastern High School
Manchester, PA



>>> jdeull [at] clarktransfer.com 3/29/05 1:10 PM >>>
For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see
<http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
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Ahhh!  The thrill of running two 14 plate piano boards face to face in
July,
without AC,


Brings back many "fond" memories...

Jonathan




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Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 14:57:23 -0500
From: Stephen Litterst <slitterst [at] ithaca.edu>
Subject: Re: Photos of electrical practice
Message-id: <4249B323.E706E4A [at] ithaca.edu>
Organization: IC-Dept. of Theatre Arts
References: <list-21504071 [at] prxy.net> <list-21505128 [at] prxy.net>

Delbert Hall wrote:

> ---------------------------------------------------
> I guess most of the young whipper-snapper technicians have never had
> the pleasure of working with this kind of fine lighting equipment.

Young whipper-snapper. Wow.  It's nice to have someone think I'm young
for a change.  :)

Steve L
-- 
Stephen C. Litterst
Technical Supervisor
Ithaca College
Dept. of Theatre Arts
607/274-3947
slitterst [at] ithaca.edu

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Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050329115635.029d89e0 [at] localhost>
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 12:02:15 -0800
From: Jerry Durand <jdurand [at] interstellar.com>
Subject: Re: Laptop Battery (OT)
In-Reply-To: <list-21402482 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-21402482 [at] prxy.net>

At 10:55 AM 3/26/2005, you wrote:
>How do you get exploding batteries, without doing bad things to them? I've
>seen it done, with a short circuit, and done it myself when experimenting 
>with
>fast charge systems. Either can lead to internal overheating, then high
>internal gas pressures, and then you're scraping bits of battery off the 
>walls. You
>can also manage it with a battery pack with a duff cell in it, on a fast
>charger.

You get lithium batteries manufactured in "Honest Jim's battery and carpet 
manufacturing shop" some place in Asia.

You assemble the battery pack in his cousin's bakery/assembly shop.  To 
save money, you leave out ALL parts not needed to make it work for at least 
a little while.

Then the battery pack is labeled "Sun Moon Happiness Battery Pack" and sold 
in your local discount store (and probably re-re-labeled with the store's 
brand).

In use, something goes wrong with the battery pack (big surprise).  Fire 
and/or explosion follows.  Dr Doom can tell you how many people are injured 
by these every year.


----------
Jerry Durand
Durand Interstellar, Inc.
219 Oak Wood Way
Los Gatos, California 95032-2523  USA
tel:  +1 408 356-3886
fax:  +1 408 356-4659
web:  www.interstellar.com




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Subject: Re: box office
Message-ID: <OF69A2A5E9.AAFFFF4C-ON85256FD3.006E6A31-85256FD3.006FE0A9 [at] sarasotagov.com>
From: Marty_Petlock [at] sarasotagov.com
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 15:22:00 -0500


Jerry Gorrell asked: "does anyone know the origin of the term "box office"

Jerry here's what I was taught: In the Restoration playhouses the
'groundlings' paid a small coin admission at showtime to what we now call
the orchestra. Lighting was from chandeliers full of cheap tallow candles
overhead, If you didn't care about your clothes and the drips from above
that was fine. The people of quality, wearing expensive clothing, sat
around the sides in rings of seats seperated by partitions covered by more
levels of seats above. That shape came from innyards and Shakespearean era
theatres.The individual enclosed areas were called boxes -  think box seats
and sky boxes at a baseball stadium. As those people had servants who could
be sent to the theatre earlier in the day to purchase seats they were sent
to the 'box office' to buy them.

To paraphrase a recent e-mail. If you have more than two theories about
this you have been in the business too long and need a vacation.


Marty Petlock
Technical Facilities Manager
Van Wezel P.A.H.
Sarasota, FL.

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Subject: Re: Re: Stretchin' marley
Message-ID: <OF7F88F6A7.E151CAA9-ON85256FD3.006FCE64-85256FD3.00704E29 [at] sarasotagov.com>
From: Marty_Petlock [at] sarasotagov.com
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 15:26:40 -0500


Keith A wrote:

Scrooge and Marley were in the "Money" business, , I would guess sort of a
"private" bank,

I'm not certain the state of the petro chemical industry in 1840's England,
I
think they were still buring whale oil weren't they?


Keith I'm gonna smack you with a red herring.

Marty Petlock
Technical Facilities Manager
Van Wezel P.A.H.
Sarasota, FL.

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From: IAEG [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <81.2488e413.2f7b143b [at] aol.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 15:27:39 EST
Subject: Re: Stretchin' marley


In a message dated 3/29/05 3:26:02 PM, Marty_Petlock [at] sarasotagov.com writes:

<< Keith I'm gonna smack you with a red herring.

Marty Petlock
Technical Facilities Manager
Van Wezel P.A.H.
Sarasota, FL. >>

oh?   are we doing Edwin Drood ? 

;-)


keith


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Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 15:35:19 -0500
From: Stephen Litterst <slitterst [at] ithaca.edu>
Subject: Re: Stretchin' marley
Message-id: <4249BC07.17F7E41A [at] ithaca.edu>
Organization: IC-Dept. of Theatre Arts
References: <list-21506936 [at] prxy.net>

IAEG [at] aol.com wrote:
> 
> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> In a message dated 3/29/05 3:26:02 PM, Marty_Petlock [at] sarasotagov.com writes:
> 
> << Keith I'm gonna smack you with a red herring.
 
> oh?   are we doing Edwin Drood ?


Oh good!  I love a brisk chorus of Off To The Races!

Steve

-- 
Stephen C. Litterst
Technical Supervisor
Ithaca College
Dept. of Theatre Arts
607/274-3947
slitterst [at] ithaca.edu

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Reply-To: <mike [at] focusnote.com>
From: "Michael Wade" <mike [at] focusnote.com>
Subject: Fake Razor Wire and Rough Hewn Poles
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 15:43:14 -0500
Message-ID: <000901c5349f$f2a0dc40$0100a8c0 [at] Mike>
In-Reply-To: <list-21498430 [at] prxy.net>

Hello all.

Here I am bidding on two shows and I have come across spec's for Fake
Razor Wire and rough finish poles.

1st the razor wire:  I am looking for approximately 60' worth.  I can
not use the real stuff for many reasons.

2nd the Poles:  Our designer wants poles... Not Bamboo but something
else.  We are looking into Eucalyptus or Cypress as the material but are
having a tough time finding a supplier who stocks this sort of thing.
The poles vary from 1/2" to 3" in diameter.

Thanks for the help with this.

Mike Wade




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From: "ladesigners [at] juno.com" <ladesigners [at] juno.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 20:45:11 GMT
Subject: Re: Photos of electrical practice
Message-Id: <20050329.124512.11522.115976 [at] webmail29.lax.untd.com>


I, too, grew up with Piano Boards and their 'Bullplug' female sockets where you could EASILY touch, or have a metallic tool touch, the 'Hot' contacts, along with the necessity of phantom loads on rheostat boards.
/s/ Richard

> I guess most of the young whipper-snapper technicians have never had
> the pleasure of working with this kind of fine lighting equipment.

Young whipper-snapper. Wow.  It's nice to have someone think I'm young
for a change.  :)
Steve L


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Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050329124914.02976050 [at] localhost>
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 12:50:42 -0800
From: Jerry Durand <jdurand [at] interstellar.com>
Subject: stickers

I still have some Stagecraft stickers left.  If you want one (or two) 
and/or want one of our flyers with the URL for the Stage Expo discounts, 
contact me off list.

No charge!  :)


----------
Jerry Durand
Durand Interstellar, Inc.
219 Oak Wood Way
Los Gatos, California 95032-2523  USA
tel:  +1 408 356-3886
fax:  +1 408 356-4659
web:  www.interstellar.com




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Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050329215211.016f8d78 [at] pop.west.cox.net>
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 21:52:11
From: CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
Subject: Re: Projector Issues

>> Why would they have two frames each and run it twice as fast?  I'm sure 
>> that there is a reason, but it escapes me at the moment.
>
>Just to clarify... the film isn't running "twice as fast," it's going 
>through the projector at 24 fps

I see.  Although I don't understand why interrupting the frame would make
it seem less like a flicker.  It would take the same interval to change
from one frame to the next whether each frame was interrupted or not, so if
they eye percieves on interruption of that length as flicker, wouldn't two
be worse?  Two interruptions would contribute nothing to the overall
percieved light level either.
Anyone close to a contemporary projector at the moment?  Anyone know where
the original tests and research came from?
				Chris "Chris" Babbie
				Location Sound
				MON AZ

Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment.  Rates
negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment...

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Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20050329215601.016f8d78 [at] pop.west.cox.net>
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 21:56:01
From: CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
Subject: Re: Breakfast?  VERY OT

>> Oh, and on holidays, I have whatever I want, but very late in the day.
>
>You obviously do not have kids.....<<gg>>

I have kids only when they're in season.  No, really, its the product of
good planning.  I was fixed the same time I did my cat and my dogs.
C'mon, if we took a vote, no one would want me to reproduce!
				Chris "Chris" Babbie
				Location Sound
				MON AZ

Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment.  Rates
negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment...

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Message-Id: <6.2.0.14.0.20050329160825.044feaf8 [at] mail.insightbb.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 16:10:16 -0500
From: Mike Brubaker <mdbrubaker [at] insightbb.com>
Subject: Re: Projector Issues
In-Reply-To: <list-21507330 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-21507330 [at] prxy.net>

I have access to a WORKING pair of Strong "Mighty 90" carbon-arc 35mm 
projectors.  I'll take a look tomorrow morning at the shutter...

Mike

At 04:52 PM 3/29/2005, CB wrote:
> >Just to clarify... the film isn't running "twice as fast," it's going
> >through the projector at 24 fps
>
>Anyone close to a contemporary projector at the moment?  Anyone know where


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Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050329130731.02975dc0 [at] localhost>
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 13:13:34 -0800
From: Jerry Durand <jdurand [at] interstellar.com>
Subject: Re: Projector Issues
In-Reply-To: <list-21437251 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-21437251 [at] prxy.net>

At 12:18 PM 3/27/2005, you wrote:
>DLP Technology uses more than one method of reproducing an image, as far as
>what portion of the picture is reproduced at what frequency, depending on
>source material, what country you're in, their electric current (or freq,
>actually) humudity (OK, only kidding...)
>Anyhoo, if the image were re-created with red green and blue alternating at
>120Hz, it would still be faster-smoother-cleaner than NTSC (US Television)
>SECAM (France and other European countries, some of the middle East) and
>PAL (the rest of Europe, Japan, everyone else) which run at 50 or 60Hz.

When Monsters Inc. came out, we went over to Pixar and got to sit in their 
custom theater to watch it.  They started with a split screen with DLP on 
one half and a 35mm answer print (Frank, American movie term, very good 
quality print) on the other.

The DLP looked BETTER than the film.  They said they were originally 
thinking DLP wouldn't be that good due to having fewer pixels than even a 
good consumer monitor.  But, the pixels don't jitter and are very accurate 
as far as color and contrast.

We watched the rest of the film in DLP mode.  :)

And, for the sound guys, the sound track was playing off the master hard 
disk at Skywalker Sound across the bay using a dedicated network link (just 
because they could).


----------
Jerry Durand
Durand Interstellar, Inc.
219 Oak Wood Way
Los Gatos, California 95032-2523  USA
tel:  +1 408 356-3886
fax:  +1 408 356-4659
web:  www.interstellar.com




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Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 16:17:18 -0500 (EST)
From: Boyd Ostroff <ostroff [at] operaphilly.com>
Subject: Re: Projector Issues
In-Reply-To: <list-21507646 [at] prxy.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0503291616170.12369 [at] maestro.operaphilly.com>
References: <list-21507330 [at] prxy.net> <list-21507646 [at] prxy.net>

Heh, CB said *contemporary*... ;-)

On Tue, 29 Mar 2005, Mike Brubaker wrote:

> I have access to a WORKING pair of Strong "Mighty 90" carbon-arc 35mm 
> projectors.

> At 04:52 PM 3/29/2005, CB wrote:
>> Anyone close to a contemporary projector at the moment?  Anyone know where


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Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.2.20050329162957.031ba940 [at] postoffice8.mail.cornell.edu>
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 16:30:57 -0500
From: Ford H Sellers <fhs4 [at] cornell.edu>
Subject: Re: Fake Razor Wire and Rough Hewn Poles
In-Reply-To: <list-21507140 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-21498430 [at] prxy.net>

How about PVC.  you can paint it to look like anything. But, What do I 
know? I'm just a sparkie.

-Ford
At 03:43 PM 3/29/2005, you wrote:

>2nd the Poles:  Our designer wants poles... Not Bamboo but something
>else.  We are looking into Eucalyptus or Cypress as the material but are
>having a tough time finding a supplier who stocks this sort of thing.
>The poles vary from 1/2" to 3" in diameter.

************************
Ford H Sellers
Master Electrician
Cornell University
Schwartz Center for the Performing Arts
430 College Avenue
Ithaca NY, 14850
(607) 254-2736  office
(607) 254-2733  fax 



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Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 16:37:40 -0500
From: Stephen Litterst <slitterst [at] ithaca.edu>
Subject: Re: Projector Issues
Message-id: <4249CAA4.1DB2E93A [at] ithaca.edu>
Organization: IC-Dept. of Theatre Arts
References: <list-21437251 [at] prxy.net> <list-21507766 [at] prxy.net>

Jerry Durand wrote:

> ---------------------------------------------------

> When Monsters Inc. came out, we went over to Pixar and got to sit in their
> custom theater to watch it.  They started with a split screen with DLP on
> one half and a 35mm answer print (Frank, American movie term, very good
> quality print) on the other.

I *have* to hang out with Jerry more often...


Steve l.

-- 
Stephen C. Litterst
Technical Supervisor
Ithaca College
Dept. of Theatre Arts
607/274-3947
slitterst [at] ithaca.edu

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Subject: RE: Fake Razor Wire and Rough Hewn Poles
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 16:47:28 -0500
Message-ID: <993D0A40B5754441B09BA4FA2A62958522ED8F [at] stage.otc.olneytheatre.org>
From: "Dre Suchoski" <Dsuchoski [at] olneytheatre.org>
Cc: mike [at] focusnote.com

> 1st the razor wire:  I am looking for approximately 60' worth.  I can
not use the real stuff for many reasons.

Here's an article that mentioned using fake razor wire:=20
(from
http://entertainmentdesignmag.com/mag/show_business_redemption_songs/)

"The vast starkness of the prison yard, with its pale gridded sky,
presents a dramatic contrast to the claustrophobia of the cells.
Yeargan's cyclone fence, with its rosettes of razor wire, looks like a
Louise Nevelson sculpture. "That material is actually a foam-rubber
version of real razor wire used in film. We originally had the full
spiral top rolls but when the grid was raised, we didn't have room in
the flies," Yeargan says."

So maybe searching film suppliers instead of theatrical sites?

Dre Suchoski
Properties Artisan


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Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 16:51:51 -0500
From: Stephen Litterst <slitterst [at] ithaca.edu>
Subject: Re: Projector Issues
Message-id: <4249CDF7.7609837D [at] ithaca.edu>
Organization: IC-Dept. of Theatre Arts
References: <list-21507330 [at] prxy.net>

CB wrote:
> ---------------------------------------------------
> I see.  Although I don't understand why interrupting the frame would make
> it seem less like a flicker.  It would take the same interval to change
> from one frame to the next whether each frame was interrupted or not, so if
> they eye percieves on interruption of that length as flicker, wouldn't two
> be worse?  Two interruptions would contribute nothing to the overall
> percieved light level either.

It's back to the persistence of vision built into the brain.  The
brain sees the repeated image as a 'new' image and the persistence
resets.   It's all about tricking the brain.  Also, increasing the
"refresh rate" by showing each frame twice means the brain can filter
the higher frequency flicker more easily.  Even though the motion is
changing at 24Hz, the brain is "seeing" 48 Hz because of that extra
flicker.  So it's not so much about making the motion smoother, but
about alleviating the flicker.

That's also the reason for showing films in darkened theatres --
persistence of vision is more dependable in a low-light environment.

Steve Litterst
-- 
Stephen C. Litterst
Technical Supervisor
Ithaca College
Dept. of Theatre Arts
607/274-3947
slitterst [at] ithaca.edu

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Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 17:14:23 -0500
Subject: Re: Breakfast?  VERY OT
From: Bill Sapsis <bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com>
Message-ID: <BE6F3D6E.5ED1%bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-21507459 [at] prxy.net>

on 3/29/05 9:56 PM, CB at psyd [at] cox.net wrote:

> I have kids only when they're in season.  No, really, its the product of
> good planning.  I was fixed the same time I did my cat and my dogs.
> C'mon, if we took a vote, no one would want me to reproduce!


well, don't know about the rest of you, but that was more info than I
needed.

<<gg>.

Bill S.
www.sapsis-rigging.com
800.727.7471
800.292.3851  fax
267.278.4561  mobile

Please support the Long Reach Long Riders on their 2nd annual benefit ride
http://sapsis-rigging.com/LRLR.html



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References: <list-21502287 [at] prxy.net>
Message-Id: <2a25e7044cbd2da9ba502e2eeffcee55 [at] appstate.edu>
From: Greg Williams <gwilliams [at] appstate.edu>
Subject: Re: Where can I access the archives and a Marley question
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 17:17:17 -0500


On Mar 29, 2005, at 9:25 AM, Al Fitch wrote:
>
> No wonder they couldn't make their mark last night!
>
>

Why, were they wearing non-scuff shoes?

-=Greg Williams=-
Production Manager
Valborg Theatre, Appalachian State University
------We're at it again!!!------
Check out the Long Reach Long Riders cross country fund raiser for 
BC/EFA at http://sapsis-rigging.com/LRLR.html


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Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 17:43:15 -0500
Subject: Re: Photos of electrical practice
From: Bill Sapsis <bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com>
Message-ID: <BE6F4433.5EE4%bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-21505128 [at] prxy.net>

on 3/29/05 12:59 PM, Delbert Hall at delbert.hall [at] gmail.com wrote:

> 
>> Ahhh!  The thrill of running two 14 plate piano boards face to face in July,
>> without AC, 

Old trick to do with these things.  At load out, just before the boards go
into the truck, drop a few bags of popcorn into the backs.  (the unpopped
kind..silly)  with any luck no one will notice them until they start popping
during focus call at the next venue.

Back in the 70's I wasn't allowed in several southern states for quite some
time because of this.
(It was worth it!)
Bill
www.sapsis-rigging.com
800.727.7471
800.292.3851  fax
267.278.4561  mobile

Please support the Long Reach Long Riders on their 2nd annual benefit ride
http://sapsis-rigging.com/LRLR.html



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Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 17:54:27 -0500
Subject: Re: Photos of electrical practice
From: Herrick Goldman <Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>
Message-ID: <BE6F46D3.3280%Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-21509177 [at] prxy.net>

Note to self:

Don't piss Uncle Bill off.....

Must remember...


On 3/29/05 5:43 PM, "Bill Sapsis" <bill [at] sapsis-rigging.com> wrote:

> 
> Old trick to do with these things.  At load out, just before the boards go
> into the truck, drop a few bags of popcorn into the backs.  (the unpopped
> kind..silly)  with any luck no one will notice them until they start popping
> during focus call at the next venue.
> 
> Back in the 70's I wasn't allowed in several southern states for quite some
> time because of this.
> (It was worth it!)

-- 
Herrick Goldman
Lighting Designer, NYC
www.HGLightingDesign.com
917-797-3624
"To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in
light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS



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Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050329150655.02975960 [at] localhost>
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 15:10:56 -0800
From: Jerry Durand <jdurand [at] interstellar.com>
Subject: Re: Projector Issues
In-Reply-To: <list-21438320 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-21437251 [at] prxy.net>
 <list-21438320 [at] prxy.net>

At 12:25 PM 3/27/2005, you wrote:

>Actually this isn't entirely true. Although film is shot at 24fps, the 
>projector flashes each frame twice, so there are 48 images shown each second.

When I was in high-school and the beginning of college, I was a 
projectionist.  We had two sets of shutters, one with two petals and one 
with 3.  The 3 (3 flashes/frame) looked better but the picture was dimmer 
(how to dim a 135A carbon arc lamp).  I'm not sure why we had a choice of 
shutters, but these projectors had been used in the 1964 World's Fair so 
they may have been for a special purpose.

These also had quartz dichroic reflectors so they didn't transmit much heat 
to the film.  I guess that was pretty cutting-edge back then.


----------
Jerry Durand
Durand Interstellar, Inc.
219 Oak Wood Way
Los Gatos, California 95032-2523  USA
tel:  +1 408 356-3886
fax:  +1 408 356-4659
web:  www.interstellar.com




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Message-ID: <4249E426.AD611939 [at] cybercom.net>
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 18:26:30 -0500
From: Dale Farmer <dale [at] cybercom.net>
Organization: The  fuzz in the back of the fridge. 
Subject: Re: Photos of electrical practice
References: <list-21509177 [at] prxy.net>



Bill Sapsis wrote:

> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> on 3/29/05 12:59 PM, Delbert Hall at delbert.hall [at] gmail.com wrote:
>
> >
> >> Ahhh!  The thrill of running two 14 plate piano boards face to face in July,
> >> without AC,
>
> Old trick to do with these things.  At load out, just before the boards go
> into the truck, drop a few bags of popcorn into the backs.  (the unpopped
> kind..silly)  with any luck no one will notice them until they start popping
> during focus call at the next venue.
>
> Back in the 70's I wasn't allowed in several southern states for quite some
> time because of this.
> (It was worth it!)
> Bill

A couple of popcorn kernels in the drip tray of the carbon arc spotlights.

    --Dale



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In-Reply-To: <list-21509554 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-21509177 [at] prxy.net> <list-21509554 [at] prxy.net>
Message-Id: <0480ffe1b25dfd5bfb2521b69ee1b57d [at] email.arizona.edu>
Cc: marko [at] email.arizona.edu (Mark O'Brien)
From: Mark O'Brien <marko [at] email.arizona.edu>
Subject: Re: Photos of electrical practice
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 16:33:41 -0700

ladyfinger firecrackers taped to the inside of box tubing to be welded.

(REALLY not allowed)

Mark O'Brien
Opera Technical Director
University of Arizona, School of Music
Tucson, AZ
520/621-7025
520/591-1803 Mobile


On Mar 29, 2005, at 4:26 PM, Dale Farmer wrote:

> A couple of popcorn kernels in the drip tray of the carbon arc 
> spotlights.
>
>     --Dale
>


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Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050329154002.029d3c60 [at] localhost>
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 15:46:00 -0800
From: Jerry Durand <jdurand [at] interstellar.com>
Subject: LED question

I was just talking to a luminary manufacturer and was wondering if it would 
be worth it to develop a DC dimmer for LEDs that did NOT pulse them 
(constant current control).

For those using PWM LED luminaries, how much problem is strobing/flicker 
from movement (of actors, etc.)?  To see the effect I'm talking about, set 
you luminary to 50% and wave your hand in front of it.  Could make an 
interesting effect with actors running on the stage if you planned on it.

This doesn't pose a problem with incandescent lamps since they don't go out 
between every pulse like LEDs do.

----------
Jerry Durand
Durand Interstellar, Inc.
219 Oak Wood Way
Los Gatos, California 95032-2523  USA
tel:  +1 408 356-3886
fax:  +1 408 356-4659
web:  www.interstellar.com




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Reply-To: <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" <stagecraft [at] jeffsalzberg.com>
Subject: RE: LED question
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 18:52:17 -0500
Message-ID: <000501c534ba$59eb9560$6601a8c0 [at] Dell>
In-Reply-To: <list-21509807 [at] prxy.net>


> For those using PWM LED luminaries, how much problem is 
> strobing/flicker 
> from movement (of actors, etc.)?

It's never been a problem for me, but I usually use them as backlights,
which would minimize the problem.



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Message-ID: <90d9c99805032916041fb65c38 [at] mail.gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 19:04:12 -0500
From: Scott Parker <scparker [at] gmail.com>
Reply-To: Scott Parker <scparker [at] gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Laptop Battery (OT)
In-Reply-To: <list-21435756 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-21435756 [at] prxy.net>

I used to have to start my old Jeep with the metal butt end of a
flashlight. The solenoid was shot. So, stick the end of the flashlight
down and short the connection. Started every time.
Ran over my own foot once!  Forgot to put it in neutral.

The good old days.
Scott

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Message-ID: <033401c534bd$1ca8b950$0800000a [at] Tony>
From: "Tony" <deeming.tony [at] btinternet.com>
References: <list-21328226 [at] prxy.net> <list-21372007 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Re: Live Sound Effect
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 01:12:04 +0100

From: "Paul Guncheon" <paul.guncheon [at] verizon.net>

> A friend of mine asked this on a local theatre mailing list:
>
> <<Quick question:  I'm looking for a live sound effect--something that
will
> sound like the "twang" of a tightly-pulled bow.  Does such an instrument
> exist, and if so, how can I get my hands on it? >>
>
> Any suggestions?
>

How about a Jew's Harp?

Ynot



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Message-ID: <BAY24-DAV38EE497AEEB2573E70616BD460 [at] phx.gbl>
From: "Occy" <OneOccy [at] hotmail.com>
Cc: scparker [at] gmail.com (Scott Parker)
References: <list-21435756 [at] prxy.net> <list-21509989 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Re: Laptop Battery (OT)
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 16:32:42 -0800


Or like the pre 65 Fords that only took a 6 inch piece of real bailing wire 
to start it and drive until you ran out or gas or put it back before dad 
found out. Or VWs in the same era but took 2 pieces, but it took more to 
bend the bailing wire back and forth to break it and you had to crawl under 
the VW.

Yep the good ol days

----- Original Message ----- 

> I used to have to start my old Jeep with the metal butt end of a
> flashlight. The solenoid was shot. So, stick the end of the flashlight
> down and short the connection. Started every time.
> Ran over my own foot once!  Forgot to put it in neutral.
>
> The good old days.
> Scott
> 

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Message-ID: <041b01c534c0$0e955500$0800000a [at] Tony>
From: "Tony" <deeming.tony [at] btinternet.com>
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Subject: Re: Photos of electrical practice
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 01:33:09 +0100

And if you look real close you'll see the guy on the ladder is wet to his
armpits - obviously been standing IN the pool at some point.....!

8-)))

>
> http://www.funnypictures.dk/funny-picture-364.htm
>
>> >
> >Some months back someone posted the URL to a photo of a guy on an
> >aluminum ladder,
>



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Message-Id: <92e99e839e6710ef799ba8dfdcfbc4de [at] mac.com>
From: David Wetmore <davidfitwe [at] mac.com>
Subject: branson
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 16:40:00 -0800

Does anyone know of where to look for job listings for Branson, 
Missouri.

David Wetmore
davidfitwe [at] wetmoreproductions.com
Hog and ETC programming
VL Tech


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Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 19:47:13 -0500
Subject: Re: Laptop Battery (OT)
From: Herrick Goldman <Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>
Message-ID: <BE6F6141.3291%Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>
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Hey weren't those the same VW's that used the air pressure from the spare
tire to power the windshield washer fluid? That's a good idea!


On 3/29/05 7:32 PM, "Occy" <OneOccy [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
 Or VWs in the same era but took 2 pieces, but it took more to
> bend the bailing wire back and forth to break it and you had to crawl under
> the VW.
> 
> Yep the good ol days
> 

-- 
Herrick Goldman
Lighting Designer, NYC
www.HGLightingDesign.com
917-797-3624
"To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in
light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS



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Message-ID: <04c601c534c1$b3ff6980$0800000a [at] Tony>
From: "Tony" <deeming.tony [at] btinternet.com>
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Subject: Re: Breakfast?  VERY OT
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 01:44:56 +0100


From: "CB" <psyd [at] cox.net>
>
> >>  Is that called French Toast over here?  Or are we still calling it
> >"Freedom
> >>  Toast?"  I can't keep that straight.
> >
> >No. That's a slice of bread soaked in beaten egg and fried. Fried bread
is
> >exactly what is says.
>
> Colloqially referred to, on this side of the ditch, as 'French Toast', or
> 'Freedom Toast' to those that aren't able to think for themselves.  Two
> countries seperated by a common language, and all.  'Fried Bread' on this
> side referes to bread dough that has been fried instead of baked.  Take a
> roll sized pice of bread dough (the frozen rolls you find in the grocery
> will suffice) and stretch it out to a small pizza shape, and plop it in
> some sizzling butter.  Fry both sides and top it with fruit, jelly, syrup,
> whatever.

Hmm....
Sorry, Chris, but I'll have to (agin my better judgment) go with FW on this
one.

Fried Bread (UK) is NOT fried dough, but a slice of regular baked bread
dropped into a frying pan of hot oil, then turned to fry the reverse side.
Personally I've always found it rather too fatty for my tastes, even using
stuff like sunflower oil etc, but it is a very common breakfast item here.

French toast is however the same over here, AFAIK - And that I used to
prefer as a kid. Not had it in years, tho.....

Ynot



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Message-ID: <4249FEA4.2000808 [at] telus.net>
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 18:19:32 -0700
From: "RODOK!!!" <rodok [at] telus.net>
Subject: stage illusion

We've joined the 300 plus groups that are producing Beauty and the Beast 
this spring. I'm looking for
a way to create the illusion of "Chip" the teacup appearing as a 
bodyless head on a tea trolley. I suspect
that mirrors or a painting of the back legs of the trolly with the 
talent hidden in a box is the trick...Anyone with
some specifics?
Rod Osiowy
Wild Theatre


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From: "Jonathan S. Deull" <jdeull [at] clarktransfer.com>
Subject: Altman Micro-Ellipse Flickers?
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 20:18:43 -0500
Message-ID: <auto-000021511787 [at] prxy.net>

New topic:

I recently rented and used a passel of these MR16 based instruments
http://www.altmanlighting.com/ProductDisplay.aspx?sectionID=3D1&categoryI=
D=3D2)
in a show.=A0 Yes I know they are not really theatrical, but we =
integrated
them into a large industrial scaffolding unit on stage and they both =
looked
and worked beautifully.=A0 On the way to working beautifully, however, =
we
found that they tended to flicker intermittently at low settings =96
especially when they were hot =96 and flashed on and off when dimming to =
and
from black.=A0 After trying a number of obvious solutions, including =
calling
Altman, I tried the old trick of putting a phantom load =96 an =
incandescent
fixture hidden away from sight =96 on each circuit.=A0 Lo and behold, =
problem
solved.=A0 Now, in the aftermath, I=92m wondering why, and I am not =
electrician
enough to figure it out.=A0 Apparently neither was the Altman product =
rep at
USITT, who couldn=92t come up with an answer.=A0 I thought it might be =
the
dimmers, so I tried them both with NSI 2.4k and with AS-40 units with =
the
same results. =A0Any thoughts?

Jonathan Deull
jdeull [at] clarktransfer.com



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Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 20:28:20 -0500 (EST)
From: Stephen Litterst <slitterst [at] ithaca.edu>
Subject: Re: Altman Micro-Ellipse Flickers?
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> ---------------------------------------------------
> I recently rented and used a passel of these MR16 based instruments
> http://www.altmanlighting.com/ProductDisplay.aspx?sectionID=1&categoryID=2)
> in a show.   On the way to working beautifully, however, we
> found that they tended to flicker intermittently at low settings –
> especially when they were hot – and flashed on and off when dimming to and
> from black.  After trying a number of obvious solutions, including calling
> Altman, I tried the old trick of putting a phantom load – an incandescent
> fixture hidden away from sight – on each circuit.  Lo and behold, problem
> solved.

I've had this result with similar fixtures.  It's the presence of the 12v
transformer.  On our LMI dimmers, the units flash to full when we fade
them out.  Something about the electronics of the SCR transformer and the
SCR dimmer not getting along.  However, the units work just fine on our
Sensor AF dimmers in the other theatre.  And traditional coil transformers
work fine with the LMI dimmers.

I've never tried putting a ghost load on the dimmers to solve this
problem.  It makes sense, in that you're increasing the load on the dimmer
to a point where it will behave normally.

Steve Litterst


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Message-ID: <010201c534d6$720ae710$186a7044 [at] TonyLaptop>
Reply-To: "Tony Olson" <ajolson [at] charter.net>
From: "Tony Olson" <ajolson [at] charter.net>
References: <list-21482940 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Re: Still Life with Iris
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 21:13:28 -0600

I wish I could make it....I open a show this weekend so I am unable to 
come...thank you for letting me know!!!

Tony Olson
Tech. Director

Theatre for Young Audiences
University of Wisconsin- Sheboygan
Northern Lights Playhouse
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Laurie Swigart" <laurie_swigart [at] hotmail.com>
To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 6:36 PM
Subject: Still Life with Iris


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ANNOUNCING  -  ENCORE PERFORMANCE

Still Life with Iris
Friday, April 1  [at]  7:30 p.m.

Sparta High School Auditorium
506 N Black River Street
Sparta, WI  54656

General Admission tickets - sold at door
Adults - $6; Students, Srs. - $4

This piece is the first play for young audiences to receive the Kennedy
Center's Fund for New American Plays Award. Still Life with Iris is a
fantastical adventure which centers on a little girl's search for the
simplest of things: home. Iris lives with her mom in the land of Nocturno-a
magical place in which the workers make, by night, all of the things we see
in the world by day. Also, in Nocturno, memories do not reside in people's
minds but instead are kept in their coats (called 'Past Coats'). The rulers
of Nocturno, the Great Goods, are determined to have the "best" of
everything on their island-and therefore take Iris away from her home and
bring her to Great Island to be their daughter. To ease the pain of this
separation, they remove her Past Coat, leaving her with no memory of her
home or her family. All that remains of Iris' past is a single button from
her coat. Using the button as a clue, Iris joins with friends she meets on
her journey-Annabel Lee (a young woman from the sea) and Mozart (the
composer, age 11)-and frees herself from the Great Goods. She returns to
Nocturno, having found her past, her home, and a wonderful surprise.

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From: Greg Bierly <gbierly [at] dejazzd.com>
Subject: Re: Projector Issues
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 22:23:57 -0500

When I worked with the AV dept in college we had a 5 blade 16mm Eiki 
projector for our film chain.  I forget the math behind it but it 
solved the flicker problem between film and video.  IIRC it alternated 
3 duplicate frames then advanced the film and followed with 2 duplicate 
frames.  My roommate was a movie theater manager/projectionist and a 
real Trek fan.  He was trying to make a 5 blade shutter for the 35mm 
projectors so he could make a good bootleg of whichever Trek movie that 
was being released in 1992.  Never did get it to work but we did remove 
the xenon lamp housing on a 35mm projector he bought and mounted an old 
TP22 base with an FEL lamp (out of a 360Q) to project from our 
apartment kitchen onto the living room wall.  He used to bring home 
first run movies on his nights off.  It was not nearly as big as at a 
theater but our surround sound system was about 10 times better.  I 
miss those carefree days.
>
Greg Bierly
Technical Director
Hempfield HS


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