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Stagecraft Digest, Issue #1056

 1. Re: Top ten most dangerous toys
    by "Bill Nelson" <billn [at] peak.org>
 2. Re: Limited dimmers/channels
    by "Bill Nelson" <billn [at] peak.org>
 3. Re: Fundraising
    by "Delbert Hall" <delbert.hall [at] gmail.com>
 4. Re: Top ten most dangerous toys
    by "Scott Parker" <scparker [at] gmail.com>
 5. Re: Good luck mojo
    by Kevin Lee Allen <klad [at] klad.com>
 6. Re: ETC Smartfade board
    by "Bill Nelson" <billn [at] peak.org>
 7. Re: Top ten most dangerous toys
    by "Brian Munroe" <bpmunroe [at] gmail.com>
 8. Re: ETC Smartfade board
    by Rick Malone <rickmalone [at] sbcglobal.net>
 9. Re: Top ten most dangerous toys
    by "Brian Munroe" <bpmunroe [at] gmail.com>
10. Re: Top ten most dangerous toys
    by "Delbert Hall" <delbert.hall [at] gmail.com>
11. Re: Top ten most dangerous toys
    by Herrick Goldman <Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>
12. Re: Top ten most dangerous toys
    by Herrick Goldman <Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>
13. Re: Good luck mojo
    by Stephen Rees <stephen.rees [at] fredonia.edu>
14. Re: Top ten most dangerous toys
    by Stephen Rees <stephen.rees [at] fredonia.edu>
15. Re: Good luck mojo
    by "ladesigners [at] juno.com" <ladesigners [at] juno.com>
16. Re: Top ten most dangerous toys
    by "Jon Ares" <jonares [at] hevanet.com>
17. Re: Need a theatre consultant
    by "Bill Conner" <bill-conner [at] att.net>
18. Re: Top ten most dangerous toys
    by Rigger <rigger [at] tds.net>
19. Re: Top ten most dangerous toys 
    by "Bill Conner" <bill-conner [at] att.net>
20. Re: Top ten most dangerous toys 
    by "Alf Sauve" <alf.sauve [at] mindspring.com>
21. Re: Top ten most dangerous toys
    by Rigger <rigger [at] tds.net>
22. Re: Top ten most dangerous toys
    by "RD" <doomster [at] worldnet.att.net>
23. Re: Need a theatre consultant
    by "RD" <doomster [at] worldnet.att.net>
24. Re: Top ten most dangerous toys
    by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
25. Re: Fundraising
    by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
26. Re: ETC Smartfade board
    by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
27. Re: Top ten most dangerous toys
    by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
28. Re: Top ten most dangerous toys
    by Bruce Purdy <bpurdy [at] rochester.rr.com>
29. Re: ETC Smartfade board
    by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
30. Re: Good luck mojo
    by CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
31. Re: Top ten most dangerous toys
    by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
32. Re: Top ten most dangerous toys
    by "Jason Salvatori" <theatretd [at] gmail.com>
33. ETCP Electrician test
    by DonEarl01 [at] aol.com
34. Re: ETC Smartfade board
    by "Ken Romaine" <ken.stagecraft [at] gmail.com>
35. Re: Top ten most dangerous toys
    by Pat Kight <kightp [at] peak.org>
36. Re: Limited dimmers/channels
    by "Paul Schreiner" <pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu>
37. Re: Top ten most dangerous toys
    by "Paul Schreiner" <pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu>
38. Re: ETCP Electrician test
    by John Huntington <jhuntington [at] fastmail.net>
39. New Yahoo Group for Entertainment Electricity
    by John Huntington <jhuntington [at] fastmail.net>
40. Re: Good luck mojo
    by "Brian Munroe" <bpmunroe [at] gmail.com>
41. Re: ETC Smartfade board
    by "Bill Nelson" <billn [at] peak.org>
42. Re: Limited dimmers/channels
    by "Jeffrey Kanyuck" <jkanyuck [at] Harford.edu>
43. Re: Top ten most dangerous toys
    by Rigger <rigger [at] tds.net>
44. Re: Top ten most dangerous toys
    by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
45. Re: ETCP Electrician test
    by John McKernon <stg2006 [at] mckernon.com>
46. Re: Top ten most dangerous toys
    by "Bill Nelson" <billn [at] peak.org>
47. 
    by "Steven Santos" <steven [at] simplycircus.com>
48. Re: Limited dimmers/channels
    by Shawn Palmer <shawn.palmer [at] sbcglobal.net>
49. Excel help? (kinda sorta OT)
    by "Paul Schreiner" <paulschreiner42 [at] gmail.com>
50. Re: Top ten most dangerous toys
    by "Paul Schreiner" <paulschreiner42 [at] gmail.com>
51. Re: Top ten most dangerous toys
    by Jim Hyslop <theatre [at] dreampossible.ca>
52. Re: Top ten most dangerous toys
    by Jim Hyslop <theatre [at] dreampossible.ca>
53. Re: Top ten most dangerous toys
    by Jim Hyslop <theatre [at] dreampossible.ca>
54. Re: Good luck mojo
    by Clive Mitchell <bigclive1 [at] ntlworld.com>
55. Re: Top ten most dangerous toys
    by Clive Mitchell <bigclive1 [at] ntlworld.com>
56. Re: Top ten most dangerous toys
    by Clive Mitchell <bigclive1 [at] ntlworld.com>
57. Re: Top ten most dangerous toys
    by "Steven Santos" <steven [at] simplycircus.com>
58. Re: Top ten most dangerous toys
    by Bruce Purdy <bpurdy [at] rochester.rr.com>
59. Re: Top ten most dangerous toys
    by Jerry Durand <jdurand [at] interstellar.com>
60. Re: Top ten most dangerous toys
    by Clive Mitchell <bigclive1 [at] ntlworld.com>
61. Conversations in drag
    by b Ricie <b_ricie [at] yahoo.com>
62. Re: Conversations in drag
    by "Paul Schreiner" <paulschreiner42 [at] gmail.com>
63. Re: New Yahoo Group for Entertainment Electricity
    by Michael Heinicke <mheinicke [at] sbcglobal.net>
64. Re: Top ten most dangerous toys
    by "Don Taco" <taco [at] peak.org>
65. Re: Digest # 1053 Missing
    by Noah Price <stagecraft-web [at] theprices.net>
66. Re: Top ten most dangerous toys
    by "Bill Nelson" <billn [at] peak.org>
67. Re: Top ten most dangerous toys
    by Simon Shuker <simon [at] ef-ae.com>

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Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 04:09:08 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: Top ten most dangerous toys
From: "Bill Nelson" <billn [at] peak.org>

> http://www.radarmagazine.com/features/2006/12/toys.php

Bah!

Let's keep all children in padded rooms and feed them only soft foods they
can eat with their hands without having to chew - such as cornmeal mush
and oatmeal. And since they won't be allowed to play with anything that
could harm them, we might as well chop off all their fingers at birth.
After all, they could poke an eye out. And don't let kids open/close car
doors - fingers have been lost by them doing so. Oh, that's right! We
don't have to worry about that any more - as we have already amputated
their fingers as useless.

When I was a youngster, I had free access to a pellet gun at age 9 and a
22 rifle at 11. I started hunting deer at 12. I also hunted birds with a
20 gauge shotgun. Nor was this unusual for youngsters my age.

Every boy carried a pocket knife of some sort. For most of us, chopping
wood was one of our chores. Firecrackers, although illegal, were easy to
get.

Cap guns of all sorts were available, as were boxes of roll caps (which we
would often explode all at once with a hammer). I even had one of those
belt deringers - and there is no way that I can imagine a person being
able to hurt themselves with one - unless they pinched their skin in the
hinge mechanism.

My sisters had a "little homemaker" or similar oven/stove where they could
bake miniature cakes and fry items on the top. I had a Vacuform (tm) that
had a very hot open platen for heating the plastic sheets for doing the
hot forming. Yes, we got minor burns, but nothing requiring treatment. And
we learned to be careful around hot surfaces.

Funny thing. No child I knew was ever injured while using these (and
other) "dangerous" objects, nor do I know of any "close calls". But we
were not allowed to use them until we proved ourselves responsible enough
to do so safely - and we were taught their proper use. If we were caught
misusing something, it would no longer be available - and other items
might become verboten as well.

But that was an era when parents actually took active interest in the
upbringing of their children. Children were also expected to get an
occasional cut, bruise or scrape as part of the learning process.

Bill


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Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 04:27:28 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: Limited dimmers/channels
From: "Bill Nelson" <billn [at] peak.org>

> Think one-channel-per-use, and then divy up the uses to fit the number
> of channels on the console.  My preference is one channel for each
> dimmer as well (lots more control), but it's not always possible.

At one venue where I do lighting design, we have a board that had 48
channels directly available in one-scene mode but we only have 24 dimmers.
There are some surprisingly good lighting designs produced, even working
within those limitations.

Yes, compromises have to be made. There have even been one or two shows
where manual repatching of some of the lights was done during
intermission.

I think some of our lighting designers occasionally patch more than one
dimmer to a channel, but I do that in the available submasters. That
allows me better control of the relative dimmer levels on that submaster.

Bill




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Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 07:48:54 -0500
From: "Delbert Hall" <delbert.hall [at] gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Fundraising
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When I taught at the Univ. of Miami (FL) we had a special performance
of each production for our  *Friends of Theatre.* After the
performance they would get to meet the actors and the director while
drinking adult beverages.  Sometimes we ran backstage tours where we
would re-run whatever special effects or tricks we had used in the
show, showed them the the backstage areas of the theatre, run some
lighting cues, etc. That was very popular.

-Delbert

-- 
Delbert L. Hall
ETCP Certified Rigger - Theatre
423-773-4255

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Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 07:57:37 -0500
From: "Scott Parker" <scparker [at] gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Top ten most dangerous toys
In-Reply-To: <list-39867415 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-39862463 [at] prxy.net> <list-39867415 [at] prxy.net>

During one of our visits to my kid's doctor, the first thing the dr.
looked for was bruises. upon finding a few: "ah, good," she said. "an
active child."
 my thought: I like this doctor......

s.


On 12/16/06, Bill Nelson <billn [at] peak.org> wrote:

>
> Bah!
>
>Children were also expected to get an
> occasional cut, bruise or scrape as part of the learning process.
>
> Bill
>
>


-- 
Thanks and take care, Scott

	Scott C. Parker
	Professor/Technical Director
	Dept. of Performing Arts
	Dyson College of Arts and Sciences  [at]  Pace University
	Office/shipping: 41 Park Row, 1205F
	Mailing: 1 Pace Plaza
	New York, NY 10038
	212-346-1423  Fax: 914-989-8425

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Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 08:38:16 -0500
From: Kevin Lee Allen <klad [at] klad.com>
Subject: Re: Good luck mojo
In-reply-to: <list-39804020 [at] prxy.net>
Message-id: <2209E253-76E1-4EF1-B921-030FE7BAE9FF [at] klad.com>
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I think Oliver Smith did the same thing, well the mouse hole, not the  
mouse.


On Dec 14, 2006, at 8:42 PM, gregg hillmar wrote:

> many years ago, I designed Moliere's TARTUFFE. Somewhere in my  
> research I read that Moliere's scenic artists always painted a  
> mousehole somewhere on the set. So I did so for this version of  
> TARTUFFE. Everybody enjoyed a good chuckle, so the next show I did  
> for this theatre, I designed the hole, and a mouse, into the set.  
> Chuckles... This went on until part of the fun was searching for  
> the mouse. It got to be so that sometimes it was painted into the  
> marbleing, or in a mousetrap in the back corner, or...



-----
Kevin Lee Allen
Architect of Dreams
http://www.klad.com
973.744.6352.voice
201.280.3841.mobile
klad [at] klad.com



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Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 05:52:58 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: ETC Smartfade board
From: "Bill Nelson" <billn [at] peak.org>

> Good idea, Bill, but I bet you meant dimmers, not channels.

No, I meant channels. By doing so, a number of things may occur. It would
depend on the implementation by the manufacturer.

1) By only sending DMX control signals for 24 channels, the refresh rate
is higher. Since the data string (frame?) is shorter, less memory is
required.

2) Internally in the computer, reducing the number of assigned channels
may free up memory space required for basic channel configuration.

3) Each cue may take up less memory space as well.

The symptoms reported sound very much like a memory overflow, so I
suggested a possible method of freeing up a bit of memory.

Bill


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Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 09:27:27 -0500
From: "Brian Munroe" <bpmunroe [at] gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Top ten most dangerous toys
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	 <list-39868968 [at] prxy.net>

On 12/16/06, Scott Parker <scparker [at] gmail.com> wrote:

> During one of our visits to my kid's doctor, the first thing the dr.
> looked for was bruises. upon finding a few: "ah, good," she said. "an
> active child."
>  my thought: I like this doctor......

A different doctor, working under today's society, would be just as
quick to call child welfare about the bruises.

Brian Munroe
bpmunroe [at] gmail.com

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Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 06:37:17 -0800 (PST)
From: Rick Malone <rickmalone [at] sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: ETC Smartfade board
Message-ID: <105557.37067.qm [at] web80502.mail.yahoo.com>

Thanks for all the suggestions.  We called ETC
yesterday.  What a pleasure to get a human on the
first ring.

I sent them a copy of the show file and they will try
to duplicate the problem.  We need to update our
software but they were reluctant to recommend doing it
during a run.  They couldn't guarantee that we
wouldn't have to reprogram the show after the update.

We made it thru last night's performance without a
freeze.  The designer wasn't there looking over the
ops shoulder so maybe the board had been intimidated.
<grin>.

Rick Malone
TD, The Church Theatre
San Antonio

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Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 09:46:15 -0500
From: "Brian Munroe" <bpmunroe [at] gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Top ten most dangerous toys
In-Reply-To: <list-39862463 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-39862463 [at] prxy.net>

On 12/16/06, Herrick Goldman <Herrick [at] hglightingdesign.com> wrote:

> http://www.radarmagazine.com/features/2006/12/toys.php
>
> Mmmmm Jarts....

My neighboorhood buddy and myself, playing jarts at his Aunt's house.
Really playing, like following the rules and everything.  I decide to
try throwing side arm.  Bad idea.  I miss the circle by a mile and
send the jart right into...

The aluminum siding on the side of the house.  Yikes!  The jart sticks
straight out of the siding like a sore thumb.  Quick, pull it out
before any adults notice what happened.  Left a nice hole in the
siding, luckily for me in an area where you wouldn't notice.  His Aunt
never did find out.

That was almost 30 years ago.

Brian Munroe
bpmunroe [at] gmail.com

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Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 10:00:21 -0500
From: "Delbert Hall" <delbert.hall [at] gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Top ten most dangerous toys
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> > http://www.radarmagazine.com/features/2006/12/toys.php

This site brought back some fond memories from my childhood.  I had
the Bat Masterson buckle gun.  It was great fun. I also had a Bat
Masterson cane tha fired caps.  It was a lot better for hitting my
brother.  Of course he threw darts (regular not lawn darts, at me) .
Besides me, the darts put several holes in the water hoses.   I
remember the ads for the Johnny Reb cannon, but I never had one (I
sure hope you all watched the ad.

Now I want one of the Atomic Energy Labs, but I be Homeland Security
is probably glad that they are not still around.

Thanks for sharing this site.

-Delbert

-- 
Delbert L. Hall
ETCP Certified Rigger - Theatre
423-773-4255

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Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 10:32:28 -0500
Subject: Re: Top ten most dangerous toys
From: Herrick Goldman <Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>
Message-ID: <C1A97BBC.14DE6%Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>
In-Reply-To: <32869172.1166271073515.JavaMail.root [at] m41>

Rant much, Bill? I bet you never pull the outriggers on your Genie when you
are in it these days though. I do however completely agree with you. I just
thought it was a fun list. A personal radiation laboratory would have been
really cool. 

On 12/16/06 7:09 AM, "Bill Nelson" <billn [at] peak.org> wrote:

> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
>> http://www.radarmagazine.com/features/2006/12/toys.php
> 
> Bah!
> 


-- 
Herrick Goldman
Lighting Designer, NYC
www.HGLightingDesign.com
917-797-3624
"To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in
light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS



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Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 10:35:19 -0500
Subject: Re: Top ten most dangerous toys
From: Herrick Goldman <Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>
Message-ID: <C1A97C67.14DE8%Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>
In-Reply-To: <19712954.1166279797783.JavaMail.root [at] m41>

Only when ther are in the shape of an iron or a C wrench. :)

On 12/16/06 9:27 AM, "Brian Munroe" <bpmunroe [at] gmail.com> wrote:

> 
> A different doctor, working under today's society, would be just as
> quick to call child welfare about the bruises.
> 
> Brian Munroe
> bpmunroe [at] gmail.com
> 

-- 
Herrick Goldman
Lighting Designer, NYC
www.HGLightingDesign.com
917-797-3624
"To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in
light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS



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Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 11:00:58 -0500
Subject: Re: Good luck mojo
From: Stephen Rees <stephen.rees [at] fredonia.edu>
Message-ID: <C1A9826A.4DE7%stephen.rees [at] fredonia.edu>
In-Reply-To: <list-39803688 [at] prxy.net>

We have a director here who always incorporates a rubber chicken in the
production somehow. Could be various sizes in the set d=E9cor, costumes, or a
prop.  Doesn't matter but the object will be in full view of the audience.
Some of our regulars think finding the chicken is the one of the best parts
of the evening.

For some years now, the ritual placement of a fork in the set by the TD
occurs just before "house dead" on opening night .  It signifies that we
have checked to see that the set is done - kinda like a cake or roast.

Steve


On 12/14/06 8:27 PM, "Rigger" <rigger [at] tds.net> wrote:

> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>=20
> At 3:27 PM -0600 12/14/06, Fred Schoening, Jr. wrote:
>=20
>> This has got me to wondering what other theatres
>> might have such a thing. Do y'all have other traditions
>> that fulfill similar functions?
>=20
>=20
> In my touring days, I used to pass out cigars to the cast and crew on
> Opening Night in a given city.  When that got to be too expensive (I
> don't buy cheap cigars) and too politically incorrect (for some), I
> started hiding a regulation-height Gumby figure somewhere in the set.


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Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 11:33:51 -0500
Subject: Re: Top ten most dangerous toys
From: Stephen Rees <stephen.rees [at] fredonia.edu>
Message-ID: <C1A98A1F.4DF0%stephen.rees [at] fredonia.edu>
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Consider yourself fortunate that that Child Protective Services did not get
summoned.    Would not be the first time.
Steve


On 12/16/06 7:57 AM, "Scott Parker" <scparker [at] gmail.com> wrote:

> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> During one of our visits to my kid's doctor, the first thing the dr.
> looked for was bruises. upon finding a few: "ah, good," she said. "an
> active child."
>  my thought: I like this doctor......
> 
> s.
> 
> 
> 
>> 
>> 
> 


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From: "ladesigners [at] juno.com" <ladesigners [at] juno.com>
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 16:54:45 GMT
Subject: Re: Good luck mojo
Message-Id: <20061216.085521.15672.899331 [at] webmail31.lax.untd.com>

As the producer, it is my duty to provide the Opening Night and =

Closing Night champagne and/or Sparkling Juice in champagne-type =

bottles. On Closing Night, once the audience has 'spoken', I will =

provide sparkling cranberry juice to certain actors or directors to =

subtly acknowledge that the audience members have collectively voted =

with their dollars, and they feel that we have produced a 'Turkey'. =

/s/ Richard
_____________________________________ =

We have a director here who always incorporates a rubber chicken in =

the production somehow. Could be various sizes in the set d=E9cor, =

costumes, or a prop.  Doesn't matter but the object will be in full =

view of the audience. Some of our regulars think finding the chicken =

is the one of the best parts of the evening.
__________________________________
For some years now, the ritual placement of a fork in the set by the =

TD occurs just before "house dead" on opening night. It signifies =

that we have checked to see that the set is done - kinda like a cake =

or roast.
Steve
______________________________
>> This has got me to wondering what other theatres
>> might have such a thing. Do y'all have other traditions
>> that fulfill similar functions?
 


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Message-ID: <001701c72133$48aa7d90$0400000a [at] BRUTUS>
From: "Jon Ares" <jonares [at] hevanet.com>
References: <list-39862463 [at] prxy.net> <list-39872532 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Re: Top ten most dangerous toys
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 08:57:34 -0800

>> http://www.radarmagazine.com/features/2006/12/toys.php
>>
>> Mmmmm Jarts....
>


How sad... I didn't realize they were off the market (not that I've been 
shopping for them, anyway).  When I was growing up, my neighbors had a 
set.... we played with them all the time.  No, not the official game (I have 
no idea how the game is played) - we just threw them a lot.  We enjoyed 
chucking them as far as we could, seeing if we could hit a log, the side of 
a barn, the dirt, etc...   Never once did it occur to us to try to impale a 
human, or small woodland creature.  Nonetheless, I don't think we ever 
thought of those heavy, blunt-ended missiles to be 'dangerous.'

Maybe that's a benefit of growing up in the country/on a farm...  respect 
for animals (and other 2-legged mammals).

     - Jon Ares
www.hevanet.com/acreative 


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Message-ID: <001701c72134$4d44a9b0$6601a8c0 [at] BCA1>
Reply-To: "Bill Conner" <bill [at] bcaworld.com>
From: "Bill Conner" <bill-conner [at] att.net>
Subject: RE: Need a theatre consultant
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 11:04:51 -0600

Curtis posted:

"How much do Theatre Consultants cost?

I Think I need a theatre consultant. I would make some attempt at the deal 
but I'm pretty sure I'll screw it up.

The idea is to convert 2000+/- sq. ft. of storefront into a flexible/cabaret 
theatre. What I need is a very nice person who can certify we're completely 
out of our minds. Then give us some ballpark of what it might cost to get an 
honest opinion on how possible our idea might be."

I suggest that you look at the web site for the American Society of Theatre 
Consultants www.theatreconsultants.org  That has some information as well as 
a list of it members, all experienced, full time professional theatre 
consultants.  Most major new theatre buildings and many of the not so major 
ones have an ASTC theatre consultant on the design team and are better for 
having that expertise and knowledge.

It is difficult for projects like yours - which seems to be an adaptive 
reuse of space on a low budget - for all design professionals:  architect, 
engineer, or theatre consultant.  It takes almost as much time to design a 
one rack dimmer system as it does a 5 rack job, but the fee - usually based 
on the overall project and not the actual systems - is usually much less for 
the one rack project.  It doesn't mean you shouldn't contact several theatre 
consultants and discuss the project, just be aware of the problem.

Also, understand that to some, theatre consulting is more about systems 
design.  To others, including most ASTC members, it's about the overall 
facility planning and design, not just the gear.  The audience experience 
and amenities are as important considerations as a supportive environment 
for the performers and production team.  An intimate, quiet space with 
resilient wood floor, power, and structural support overhead has no 
limitations - it just isn't fully equipped yet.  A cold, noisy space with a 
hard slab and all the lighting and rigging in the world is forever 
handicapped.

If you would like to discuss any of this in general terms or even 
specifically in terms of my services, please call or email.  I can share 
with you some thoughts on fees - your first question - that don't belong 
here.  Also,  I'm very accustomed to providing general advice and guidance - 
whatever I can do in a half hour or hour telephone call - especially when 
the project budget clearly won't afford professional design fees.  It's 
usually the English teacher or the school superintendent being told they 
need a new lighting system to solve all their problems when in fact a 
catwalk or winched batten or some better mounting position is what's really 
required.  The misconceptions of what the problems are continues to amaze 
me.

A while ago I posted a response on some specific steps in selecting a 
theatre consultant.  If you can't find that in the archives, email me and I 
will forward that post.

Good luck.  I hope the shortcomings and flaws of your new space are a result 
of budget and not bad choice, and that they don't inhibit the passion of 
playmaking.  It's always difficult to get maximum return on the investment 
but even more when the investment is small to start with, and the dreams and 
aspirations are large.

Bill Conner ASTC, ETCP CR-T 


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Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 12:29:52 -0500
From: Rigger <rigger [at] tds.net>
Subject: Re: Top ten most dangerous toys

At 10:00 AM -0500 12/16/06, Delbert Hall wrote:

>  I remember the ads for the Johnny Reb cannon, but I never
>  had one (I sure hope you all watched the ad.


I had one of 'em, as well as the Zero-M bazooka and a Don "Mr. 
Science" Herbert junior chemistry set.  Way big fun!

...And a big ol' "AMEN!" to Bill's rant. People today seem to raise 
children to be accessories to their own lifestyles, rather than 
discrete little people. The kids are gulled and pampered, never given 
attention or a chance to explore the world or be exposed to anything 
that'd harden their natural defenses, and *certainly* never 
disciplined.

Then we wonder why they're all pale, wan, sickly little squirts 
afraid of their own shadows and more apt to throw a tantrum to get 
their way than to resort to other, more diplomatic or devious means.

With any luck at all, half of 'em will die from a common head-cold 
before procreating and further weakening the strain.

(and no; my wife and I won't have kids. Carrying a baby to term would 
kill Becky, and in any case I have no desire to discover what prison 
food tastes like, which is most likely where I'd wind up if I were a 
parent these days, especially if my son turned out like me.)

-- 
Dave Vick
rigger [at] tds.net
20/20 Design

      "I have grown to detest the exact kind of
       people AOL markets to: the clueless teeming
       millions who have absolutely no business
       anywhere near a computer or on the Internet."

                       -- Ray Owen
         <http://www.jokeaday.com/7aolexe.shtml>

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Message-ID: <001b01c72138$0c8ef890$6601a8c0 [at] BCA1>
Reply-To: "Bill Conner" <bill [at] bcaworld.com>
From: "Bill Conner" <bill-conner [at] att.net>
Subject: Re:  Top ten most dangerous toys 
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 11:31:40 -0600

Thanks Herrick.

I had one of those Bat Masterson buckle gun things.   Wish I'd held onto it.

Bill Conner ASTC



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Reply-To: "Alf Sauve" <alf.sauve [at] mindspring.com>
From: "Alf Sauve" <alf.sauve [at] mindspring.com>
References: <list-39862463 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Re: Top ten most dangerous toys 
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 12:14:09 -0500

$49.94 for the U238 kit.  That was a lot of money in the '50s.  I'd gladly 
plunk that down now just for the Geiger-Mueller tube.  Those sucker are 
still very expensive.   Tried to build my own counter a while back.  They 
really haven't come up with a good "solid state" replacement for those 
tubes.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Herrick Goldman" <Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com>
To: "Stagecraft" <stagecraft [at] theatrical.net>
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 3:56 AM
Subject: Top ten most dangerous toys


> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> http://www.radarmagazine.com/features/2006/12/toys.php
>
> Mmmmm Jarts....
>
> -- 
> Herrick Goldman
> Lighting Designer, NYC
> www.HGLightingDesign.com
> 917-797-3624
> "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in
> light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS
>
>
> 



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References: <list-39862463 [at] prxy.net> <list-39872532 [at] prxy.net>
 <list-39876576 [at] prxy.net>
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 12:33:08 -0500
From: Rigger <rigger [at] tds.net>
Subject: Re: Top ten most dangerous toys

At 8:57 AM -0800 12/16/06, Jon Ares wrote:

>  When I was growing up, my neighbors had a set.... we played
>  with them all the time.  No, not the official game (I have no
>  idea how the game is played)


Just like horseshoes.

-- 
Dave Vick
rigger [at] tds.net

There are nights when the wolves are silent, and only the moon howls.

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Reply-To: <doomster [at] worldnet.att.net>
From: "RD" <doomster [at] worldnet.att.net>
Subject: RE: Top ten most dangerous toys
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 10:43:43 -0700
Message-ID: <010401c72139$bdca9050$6501a8c0 [at] doom1>
In-Reply-To: <list-39877631 [at] prxy.net>

We all grow up differently ... thank God for that on this Hanukkah
Celebration. Poor as churchmice, though I have only seen a few in church.
Two presents during my youth: one a stuffed Scotty Dog, still well
preserved. December, 1941, a toy cannon. Those were all. Being adopted one
did not receive a lot, and I am, in retrospect, thankful for that. And
today, this year, and all years, we do not give Gifts, but we give to the
poor. No trees, no lights, but our hearts seem to be better off for it, well
except my heart (four times this week, yes this week, in the hospital for
those sharp like ice pick pains in the chest) yes, I do have a heart,
strange eh, for Doom to have one. I am sure most thought not. 
A Holy Season to one and all ...may He who governs all toys and people and
nations, bring each of you Joy and Peace and Safety and Health. Dr. Doom 
[Yes, indeed, born a Brodsky and good Russian Jewish lad, and now Davidson,
or Doom.] Voila! C'est la vie! Or maybe C'est dommage! Choose. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Rigger
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 10:30 AM
To: Stagecraft
Subject: Re: Top ten most dangerous toys

For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
---------------------------------------------------

At 10:00 AM -0500 12/16/06, Delbert Hall wrote:

>  I remember the ads for the Johnny Reb cannon, but I never
>  had one (I sure hope you all watched the ad.


I had one of 'em, as well as the Zero-M bazooka and a Don "Mr. 
Science" Herbert junior chemistry set.  Way big fun!

...And a big ol' "AMEN!" to Bill's rant. People today seem to raise 
children to be accessories to their own lifestyles, rather than 
discrete little people. The kids are gulled and pampered, never given 
attention or a chance to explore the world or be exposed to anything 
that'd harden their natural defenses, and *certainly* never 
disciplined.

Then we wonder why they're all pale, wan, sickly little squirts 
afraid of their own shadows and more apt to throw a tantrum to get 
their way than to resort to other, more diplomatic or devious means.

With any luck at all, half of 'em will die from a common head-cold 
before procreating and further weakening the strain.

(and no; my wife and I won't have kids. Carrying a baby to term would 
kill Becky, and in any case I have no desire to discover what prison 
food tastes like, which is most likely where I'd wind up if I were a 
parent these days, especially if my son turned out like me.)

-- 
Dave Vick
rigger [at] tds.net
20/20 Design

      "I have grown to detest the exact kind of
       people AOL markets to: the clueless teeming
       millions who have absolutely no business
       anywhere near a computer or on the Internet."

                       -- Ray Owen
         <http://www.jokeaday.com/7aolexe.shtml>


------------------------------

Reply-To: <doomster [at] worldnet.att.net>
From: "RD" <doomster [at] worldnet.att.net>
Cc: bill [at] bcaworld.com ('Bill Conner')
Subject: RE: Need a theatre consultant
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 10:44:53 -0700
Message-ID: <010501c72139$e4f8c6b0$6501a8c0 [at] doom1>
In-Reply-To: <list-39876818 [at] prxy.net>

Wise words oh great consultant. Doom 

-----Original Message-----
From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Bill Conner
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 10:05 AM
To: Stagecraft
Subject: Re: Need a theatre consultant

For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
---------------------------------------------------

Curtis posted:

"How much do Theatre Consultants cost?

I Think I need a theatre consultant. I would make some attempt at the deal 
but I'm pretty sure I'll screw it up.

The idea is to convert 2000+/- sq. ft. of storefront into a flexible/cabaret

theatre. What I need is a very nice person who can certify we're completely 
out of our minds. Then give us some ballpark of what it might cost to get an

honest opinion on how possible our idea might be."

I suggest that you look at the web site for the American Society of Theatre 
Consultants www.theatreconsultants.org  That has some information as well as

a list of it members, all experienced, full time professional theatre 
consultants.  Most major new theatre buildings and many of the not so major 
ones have an ASTC theatre consultant on the design team and are better for 
having that expertise and knowledge.

It is difficult for projects like yours - which seems to be an adaptive 
reuse of space on a low budget - for all design professionals:  architect, 
engineer, or theatre consultant.  It takes almost as much time to design a 
one rack dimmer system as it does a 5 rack job, but the fee - usually based 
on the overall project and not the actual systems - is usually much less for

the one rack project.  It doesn't mean you shouldn't contact several theatre

consultants and discuss the project, just be aware of the problem.

Also, understand that to some, theatre consulting is more about systems 
design.  To others, including most ASTC members, it's about the overall 
facility planning and design, not just the gear.  The audience experience 
and amenities are as important considerations as a supportive environment 
for the performers and production team.  An intimate, quiet space with 
resilient wood floor, power, and structural support overhead has no 
limitations - it just isn't fully equipped yet.  A cold, noisy space with a 
hard slab and all the lighting and rigging in the world is forever 
handicapped.

If you would like to discuss any of this in general terms or even 
specifically in terms of my services, please call or email.  I can share 
with you some thoughts on fees - your first question - that don't belong 
here.  Also,  I'm very accustomed to providing general advice and guidance -

whatever I can do in a half hour or hour telephone call - especially when 
the project budget clearly won't afford professional design fees.  It's 
usually the English teacher or the school superintendent being told they 
need a new lighting system to solve all their problems when in fact a 
catwalk or winched batten or some better mounting position is what's really 
required.  The misconceptions of what the problems are continues to amaze 
me.

A while ago I posted a response on some specific steps in selecting a 
theatre consultant.  If you can't find that in the archives, email me and I 
will forward that post.

Good luck.  I hope the shortcomings and flaws of your new space are a result

of budget and not bad choice, and that they don't inhibit the passion of 
playmaking.  It's always difficult to get maximum return on the investment 
but even more when the investment is small to start with, and the dreams and

aspirations are large.

Bill Conner ASTC, ETCP CR-T 


------------------------------

From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <bd2.b3437b3.32b58f37 [at] aol.com>
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 13:04:39 EST
Subject: Re: Top ten most dangerous toys

In a message dated 16/12/06 12:09:53 GMT Standard Time, billn [at] peak.org writes:

> Funny thing. No child I knew was ever injured while using these (and
>  other) "dangerous" objects, nor do I know of any "close calls". But we
>  were not allowed to use them until we proved ourselves responsible enough
>  to do so safely - and we were taught their proper use. If we were caught
>  misusing something, it would no longer be available - and other items
>  might become verboten as well.
>  
>  But that was an era when parents actually took active interest in the
>  upbringing of their children. Children were also expected to get an
>  occasional cut, bruise or scrape as part of the learning process.

Too right. Cuts, bruises, and scraped knees were a normal part of growing up. 
I learnt to use edged tools with the blade edge away from me by cutting 
myself with a chisel. After mother had cleaned me up, and applied sticking plaster, 
my grandfather took me back to the workshop and showed me how to do it right.

As for pocket knives, I have had one in my pocket since I had pockets. 
Except, these days, when travelling by air. Then it has to go in my hold baggage; I 
lost a "waiter's friend" at Heathrow last year. Oddly, the 4" dagger 
incorporated in my left arm does not seem to be detected.

Frank Wood

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From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <ce6.43a35ba.32b590fa [at] aol.com>
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 13:12:10 EST
Subject: Re: Fundraising

In a message dated 16/12/06 12:49:31 GMT Standard Time, 
delbert.hall [at] gmail.com writes:

> When I taught at the Univ. of Miami (FL) we had a special performance
>  of each production for our  *Friends of Theatre.* After the
>  performance they would get to meet the actors and the director while
>  drinking adult beverages.  Sometimes we ran backstage tours where we
>  would re-run whatever special effects or tricks we had used in the
>  show, showed them the the backstage areas of the theatre, run some
>  lighting cues, etc. That was very popular.

Many theatres run backstage tours. We run theatre tours for new members every 
Wednesday evening. Of course, if there is a show on these are more limited. 
but timed to happen in the interval. What surprised me was the "hands on" 
element. And the cost.

Frank Wood

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From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <ccb.46601d7.32b5931b [at] aol.com>
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 13:21:15 EST
Subject: Re: ETC Smartfade board

In a message dated 16/12/06 13:53:37 GMT Standard Time, billn [at] peak.org writes:

> No, I meant channels. By doing so, a number of things may occur. It would
>  depend on the implementation by the manufacturer.
>  
>  1) By only sending DMX control signals for 24 channels, the refresh rate
>  is higher. Since the data string (frame?) is shorter, less memory is
>  required.
>  
>  2) Internally in the computer, reducing the number of assigned channels
>  may free up memory space required for basic channel configuration.
>  
>  3) Each cue may take up less memory space as well.

I always find this confusing. A "fader", be it a physical fader or a keypad 
and wheel, is one thing. A "channel", is how the information gets from the 
fader to the "dimmer", which is the device which controls the flow of electricity. 
But others seem to have different definitions.

Frank Wood

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From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <bd1.ac00eb0.32b59481 [at] aol.com>
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 13:27:13 EST
Subject: Re: Top ten most dangerous toys

In a message dated 16/12/06 14:28:14 GMT Standard Time, bpmunroe [at] gmail.com 
writes:

> >  my thought: I like this doctor......
>  
>  A different doctor, working under today's society, would be just as
>  quick to call child welfare about the bruises.

I agree with the original post. I have spent 67 years learning how NOT to do 
things. This implies a certain amount of minor damage. Wrapping kids up in 
cotton wool will simply expose them to greater dangers when we unwrap them.

Frank Wood

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Message-Id: <DDA26532-3313-4AC3-86A5-FB78C4E093E5 [at] rochester.rr.com>
From: Bruce Purdy <bpurdy [at] rochester.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Top ten most dangerous toys
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 13:31:49 -0500


On 16 Dec 2006, at 03:56, Herrick Goldman wrote:
> http://www.radarmagazine.com/features/2006/12/toys.php
>
> Mmmmm Jarts....

	Thanks for the trip down memory lane!
I well remember playing with Jarts - Wouldn't mind getting another  
set if I could find one. The Mini - hammock looks like one I bought a  
few years back and still carry with me when backpacking. Who the heck  
needs "Spreader bars" anyway ???

	The "Snacktime Cabbage Patch Dolls" do look like a dangerous and  
crazy idea though!  The most stirring memory this collection brought  
back was the original "Creepy Crawlers" set God how I loved that  
thing. I remember the cannon commercial as well, but never had one.

	I firmly agree that Over - protected kids growing up in a sterile  
"Safe" environment is not a good thing. Immunity to diseases are  
often built up through exposure to germs. The focus on extreme  
cleaning products and paranoia about microbes of any kind as evident  
in TV ads is likely to lead to people who are more susceptible to  
sickness I think. (Fortunately they sell cures for that as well!) The  
same holds true to learning to play with dangerous items. (Within  
reason of course!)

Bruce
____________________
Bruce Purdy
Technical Director
Smith Opera House




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From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <c0b.bc0d507.32b595b0 [at] aol.com>
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 13:32:16 EST
Subject: Re: ETC Smartfade board

In a message dated 16/12/06 14:37:46 GMT Standard Time, 
rickmalone [at] sbcglobal.net writes:

> We made it thru last night's performance without a
>  freeze.  The designer wasn't there looking over the
>  ops shoulder so maybe the board had been intimidated.
>  <grin>.

I should hope not. I trust my operators. While I am always present, in case 
of a major problem, I am usually to be found in the bar. Operators I can't 
trust, I don't use.

Frank Wood

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Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20061216110651.00c923b8 [at] pop.west.cox.net>
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 11:06:51
From: CB <psyd [at] cox.net>
Subject: Re: Good luck mojo

>"Hidden Mickeys?"

Oh jeez.  A coupla the proptarts on the 'AIDA' tour that I was on for a
short while went absolutely nuts with the hidden Mickey's.  The person who
found all of them was taken, along with a friend, to the restaurant of
their choice.
Oh, and there are a coupla people (Karen, Andrea) at the Orpheum in Phoenix
that insist that if there isn't a certain duck watching the rail, minor
catastrphic failure will ensue at some point.
Mine is stage left snax.  If I'm on the deck as an A2, there will be a bowl
(pile, bog, bag) of something sweet to sanck on when you get off stage, or
between cues, or whatever.  It's a magic equation that makes actors
cooperate, nice, and considerate.  It's pretty good at getting the locals
to consider you the 'good one' out of the bunch if they decide they hate
the production, too.
				Chris "Chris" Babbie
				Location Sound
				MON AZ

Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment.  Rates
negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment...

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From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <ce6.43abc88.32b5978e [at] aol.com>
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 13:40:14 EST
Subject: Re: Top ten most dangerous toys

L'chaim. Bis hundertswantzig.

Frank Wood

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Message-ID: <1caebf780612161113n167d11b7pd31e67e51488cd60 [at] mail.gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 14:13:23 -0500
From: "Jason Salvatori" <theatretd [at] gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Top ten most dangerous toys
In-Reply-To: <list-39879945 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-39862463 [at] prxy.net> <list-39879945 [at] prxy.net>

Jarts are still around these days... unfortunately the large metal
spike has been replaced by a bean-bag.  Not nearly as fun.

Jason

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From: DonEarl01 [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <c0d.ca7daee.32b59fda [at] aol.com>
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 14:15:38 EST
Subject: ETCP Electrician test

I started wondering why I hadn't heard how I did  on the electrician's exam 
but I guess it was just slow mail. It came today.  I passed!

Don Earl 
etcp certified rigger - arena &  theatre
etcp certified entertainment electrician

Earl Girls Inc.  Theatrical Equipment
1648 White Horse Pike
PO Box 297
Egg Harbor City,  NJ 08215-0297
609 965-6900 fax 609 965-3330
www.earlgirls.com  


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Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 14:32:37 -0500
From: "Ken Romaine" <ken.stagecraft [at] gmail.com>
Subject: Re: ETC Smartfade board
In-Reply-To: <list-39870832 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-39813576 [at] prxy.net> <list-39827333 [at] prxy.net>
	 <list-39870832 [at] prxy.net>

Bill:

Re: Your first item:
The DMX signal only contains level information (other than the start,
break, mark-before-break, etc.), and in this case, sends it only to
and for dimmers.  Channel information never leaves the console.  The
way to increase the DMX signal's refresh speed, reduce the DMX frame
length, and reduce the amount of number-crunching the console's
processor has to do, is to limit the maximum number of dimmers,
assuming the console allows.

As for your items 2 & 3, this may be the case with some manufacturer's
products.  I don't know for certain, one way or the other.  Maybe
someone who does will speak up and enlighten us all.
-- 
Ken Romaine
Business Development Manager
Barco Media & Entertainment
The opinions expressed here are mine - all mine - no matter how
much I want to impose them on the rest of the world.

On 12/16/06, Bill Nelson <billn [at] peak.org> wrote:
>
> > Good idea, Bill, but I bet you meant dimmers, not channels.
>
> No, I meant channels. By doing so, a number of things may occur. It would
> depend on the implementation by the manufacturer.
>
> 1) By only sending DMX control signals for 24 channels, the refresh rate
> is higher. Since the data string (frame?) is shorter, less memory is
> required.
>
> 2) Internally in the computer, reducing the number of assigned channels
> may free up memory space required for basic channel configuration.
>
> 3) Each cue may take up less memory space as well.
>
> The symptoms reported sound very much like a memory overflow, so I
> suggested a possible method of freeing up a bit of memory.
>
> Bill

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Message-ID: <45844D95.4060306 [at] peak.org>
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 11:48:37 -0800
From: Pat Kight <kightp [at] peak.org>
Subject: Re: Top ten most dangerous toys
References: <list-39878970 [at] prxy.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-39878970 [at] prxy.net>

FrankWood95 [at] aol.com wrote:


> As for pocket knives, I have had one in my pocket since I had pockets. 
> Except, these days, when travelling by air. Then it has to go in my hold baggage; I 
> lost a "waiter's friend" at Heathrow last year. Oddly, the 4" dagger 
> incorporated in my left arm does not seem to be detected.

Now *that's* funny.

Happy holidays, Frank, from one old theater fart to another.

-- 
Pat Kight
kightp [at] peak.org

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Subject: RE: Limited dimmers/channels
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 14:55:20 -0500
Message-ID: <6E497ADB607656479C24E6D7BF6B505A06FA15F7 [at] exchange.rmwc.edu>
In-Reply-To: <list-39867909 [at] prxy.net>
From: "Paul Schreiner" <pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu>

> At one venue where I do lighting design, we have a board that=20
> had 48 channels directly available in one-scene mode but we=20
> only have 24 dimmers.
> There are some surprisingly good lighting designs produced,=20
> even working within those limitations.
>=20
> Yes, compromises have to be made. There have even been one or=20
> two shows where manual repatching of some of the lights was=20
> done during intermission.

Back in the day, we used to call that "college".

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Subject: RE: Top ten most dangerous toys
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 15:01:34 -0500
Message-ID: <6E497ADB607656479C24E6D7BF6B505A06FA15FB [at] exchange.rmwc.edu>
In-Reply-To: <list-39877631 [at] prxy.net>
From: "Paul Schreiner" <pschreiner [at] rmwc.edu>

> (and no; my wife and I won't have kids. Carrying a baby to=20
> term would kill Becky, and in any case I have no desire to=20
> discover what prison food tastes like, which is most likely=20
> where I'd wind up if I were a parent these days, especially=20
> if my son turned out like me.)

I dunno...from what I know of you, Dave, I don't think I'd have any
problems at all if my son turned out like you.

An ulcer might be a possibility, though. :)

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Message-ID: <45845AF5.90300 [at] fastmail.net>
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 15:45:41 -0500
From: John Huntington <jhuntington [at] fastmail.net>
Subject: Re: ETCP Electrician test
References: <list-39881461 [at] prxy.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-39881461 [at] prxy.net>

DonEarl01 [at] aol.com wrote on 12/16/2006 2:15 PM, :
> I started wondering why I hadn't heard how I did  on the electrician's exam 
> but I guess it was just slow mail. It came today.  I passed!

Congratulations!!! 

I passed too, but, uh, that's because I helped write the test :-)  

See other message about a new Yahoo group...

John

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Message-ID: <45845BA1.30403 [at] fastmail.net>
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 15:48:33 -0500
From: John Huntington <jhuntington [at] fastmail.net>
Cc: THEATRE-SOUND [at] LISTSERV.AOL.COM (Discussion list for people working in sound for live theatre.)
Cc: Show-Control [at] yahoogroups.com (Show Control)
Subject: New Yahoo Group for Entertainment Electricity

Now that we have some freshly certified entertainment electricians 
(including myself)  I thought I'd set up a Yahoo Group to discuss 
electrical issues related to entertainment.  The group, of course, is 
not just for certified electricians, but for anything entertainment 
electric related...

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EntertainmentElectricity

to join...

John Huntington
http://www.zircondesigns.com/

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Message-ID: <b7aa28010612161251p39b48f0di715b04664b457ba [at] mail.gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 15:51:06 -0500
From: "Brian Munroe" <bpmunroe [at] gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Good luck mojo
In-Reply-To: <list-39880033 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-39880033 [at] prxy.net>

On Sat, 16 Dec 2006 11:06:51, CB <psyd [at] cox.net> wrote:

> Mine is stage left snax.  If I'm on the deck as an A2, there will be a bowl
> (pile, bog, bag) of something sweet to sanck on when you get off stage, or
> between cues, or whatever.  It's a magic equation that makes actors
> cooperate, nice, and considerate.

Oh, you mean "dancer bait."

Brian Munroe
bpmunroe [at] gmail.com

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Message-ID: <2500.205.215.253.20.1166306711.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org>
In-Reply-To: <list-39881994 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-39813576 [at] prxy.net> <list-39827333 [at] prxy.net> 
    <list-39870832 [at] prxy.net> <list-39881994 [at] prxy.net>
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 14:05:11 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: ETC Smartfade board
From: "Bill Nelson" <billn [at] peak.org>

> Re: Your first item:
> The DMX signal only contains level information (other than the start,
> break, mark-before-break, etc.), and in this case, sends it only to
> and for dimmers.  Channel information never leaves the console.  The
> way to increase the DMX signal's refresh speed, reduce the DMX frame
> length, and reduce the amount of number-crunching the console's
> processor has to do, is to limit the maximum number of dimmers,
> assuming the console allows.

Yeah, that was a typo. Of course it is only dimmer level information that
gets sent.

The other way is to do as I suggested, at least on the boards I have used.
Limit the number of active channels - so the processor does not even look
at the inactive ones.

But in the case under discussion, it sounds like a memory overflow, not a
processing speed problem. How to generate more free memory depends on the
manufacturer's software implementation.

Bill




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Message-Id: <s5842909.057 [at] gwia.harford.edu>
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 17:12:26 -0500
From: "Jeffrey Kanyuck" <jkanyuck [at] Harford.edu>
Subject: Re: Limited dimmers/channels

I've had the same problem occur for me at a venue I used to work for. 

One of the things I did was to run one of the dimmer's cables to me in
the tech booth and then run several cables (labled) back out to separate
lights. We figured out a sequence in the show where I would be able to
use one-time or twice-used lights as specials and plugged and unplugged
accordingly as the show went.

I'll say this for limited dimmers and channels: It teaches you realitive
importance and how to make your lighting count in the design of the
show. I had some terrific designs come out of it and learned how to make
things interesting in spite of having little equipment. 

Jeff Kanyuck



>>> billn [at] peak.org 12/16/06 7:27 AM >>>
For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see
<http://stagecraft.theprices.net/><~!B*+R^&>---------------------------------------------------<~!B*+R^&><~!B*+R^&>>
Think one-channel-per-use, and then divy up the uses to fit the number
> of channels on the console.  My preference is one channel for each
> dimmer as well (lots more control), but it's not always possible.

At one venue where I do lighting design, we have a board that had 48
channels directly available in one-scene mode but we only have 24
dimmers.
There are some surprisingly good lighting designs produced, even working
within those limitations.

Yes, compromises have to be made. There have even been one or two shows
where manual repatching of some of the lights was done during
intermission.

I think some of our lighting designers occasionally patch more than one
dimmer to a channel, but I do that in the available submasters. That
allows me better control of the relative dimmer levels on that
submaster.

Bill





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Message-Id: <p06230901c1aa1fe56a0c [at] [192.168.0.2]>
In-Reply-To: <list-39882927 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-39882927 [at] prxy.net>
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 17:14:53 -0500
From: Rigger <rigger [at] tds.net>
Subject: Re: Top ten most dangerous toys

At 3:01 PM -0500 12/16/06, Paul Schreiner wrote:

>>  (and no; my wife and I won't have kids. Carrying a baby to
>>  term would kill Becky, and in any case I have no desire to
>>  discover what prison food tastes like, which is most likely
>>  where I'd wind up if I were a parent these days, especially
>>  if my son turned out like me.)
>
>I dunno...from what I know of you, Dave, I don't think I'd have any
>problems at all if my son turned out like you.

<tweety>
He don' know me vewwy well, do he?
</tweety>


>An ulcer might be a possibility, though. :)

You misspelled "probability," Paul. Ain't no "might" about it.

-- 
Dave Vick
rigger [at] tds.net

  If you're really a Goth, where were you when we were sacking Rome?

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From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com
Message-ID: <cac.6446dd5.32b5cdaf [at] aol.com>
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 17:31:11 EST
Subject: Re: Top ten most dangerous toys

In a message dated 16/12/06 19:47:00 GMT Standard Time, kightp [at] peak.org 
writes:

> Happy holidays, Frank, from one old theater fart to another.

And the same to you all. As my mother used to say, "May the best of your past 
be the worst of your future".

Frank Wood

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Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 17:47:20 -0500
Subject: Re: ETCP Electrician test
From: John McKernon <stg2006 [at] mckernon.com>
Message-ID: <C1A9E1A8.12FD7%stg2006 [at] mckernon.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-39881461 [at] prxy.net>

> I started wondering why I hadn't heard how I did  on the electrician's exam
> but I guess it was just slow mail. It came today.  I passed!

Congratulations!

Just wait until we get a Lightwright exam going...;)

- John



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Message-ID: <2561.205.215.253.20.1166310480.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org>
In-Reply-To: <list-39873914 [at] prxy.net>
References: <32869172.1166271073515.JavaMail.root [at] m41>
    <list-39873914 [at] prxy.net>
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 15:08:00 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: Top ten most dangerous toys
From: "Bill Nelson" <billn [at] peak.org>

> Rant much, Bill? I bet you never pull the outriggers on your Genie when you
> are in it these days though. I do however completely agree with you. I
> just thought it was a fun list.

No, I seldom rant. But I just couldn't resist, this time.

As far as the Genie goes, no comment.

A fun list maybe, but "most dangerous" is hardly accurate.

Bill


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From: "Steven Santos" <steven [at] simplycircus.com>
Subject: 
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 20:03:18 -0500
Message-ID: <FDEPKKINFFFAJOOJMIKBAEAEELAA.steven [at] simplycircus.com>

I am in the process of writing an article on how to write Risk Assessments.
I would like to include samples beyond just the ones I have written.  Would
anyone be willing to share you programs Risk Assessments with me?


----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----

Steven Santos
Director, Simply Circus, Inc.
Email: Steven [at] SimplyCircus.com
 Mail: PO BOX 620753
       Newton, MA 02462
Phone: 781-799-4938
 eFax: 309-214-0899
  Web: www.SimplyCircus.com


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Message-ID: <45849D44.8090207 [at] sbcglobal.net>
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 19:28:36 -0600
From: Shawn Palmer <shawn.palmer [at] sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Limited dimmers/channels
References: <list-39886968 [at] prxy.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-39886968 [at] prxy.net>

> I'll say this for limited dimmers and channels: It teaches you realitive
> importance and how to make your lighting count in the design of the
> show. I had some terrific designs come out of it and learned how to make
> things interesting in spite of having little equipment. 
> 
> Jeff Kanyuck

One of the coolest lighting designs I've ever seen was done by one of my 
former students.  It was for a play called "Ripper," about.. you guessed 
it, Jack the Ripper.

The design used four fixtures, including one 14" scoop.  It was an 
inspired and amazing use of almost no resources.  It was good that she 
had the job.  She showed incredible imagination.  One of the cues in 
that show still gives me chills when I think about it.

When it comes down to it, it isn't really about fancy gear.  A good 
designer is vitally important.  Not neccesarily a professional or a 
card-carrying union member or any one of numerous other affiliations. 
Just a GOOD one.

FWIW
Shawn Palmer
Appleton, WI
USA


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Message-ID: <f23a0f840612161815k73154f88j2df1f08b4d97a785 [at] mail.gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 21:15:53 -0500
From: "Paul Schreiner" <paulschreiner42 [at] gmail.com>
Subject: Excel help? (kinda sorta OT)

Anyone out there good with writing macros in Excel?  I'm trying to
figure out if something I wanna do is possible, as well as potentially
how to go about it...email me off-list if you might be able to help.
TIA

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Message-ID: <f23a0f840612161826n1a003d7au1b5c95e02759e528 [at] mail.gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 21:26:33 -0500
From: "Paul Schreiner" <paulschreiner42 [at] gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Top ten most dangerous toys
In-Reply-To: <list-39867415 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-39862463 [at] prxy.net> <list-39867415 [at] prxy.net>

> Let's keep all children in padded rooms and feed them only soft foods they
> can eat with their hands without having to chew <snip rant>

Thought I'd share a little something that my not-quite-five year old
(his birthday is the 27th) did tonight that was kinda impressive.

Last time we got on this subject a few months ago, I mentioned some of
the stuff we're doing with him (like kitchen knives and flyrails and
screw guns and such).  We just moved into a new house (first-time
homeowner!  woot!) and in celebration put my dart board up--haven't
thrown in a couple of years now.  He's picking it up pretty quickly,
even with those *dangerous darts with the (gasp) steel pointy tips*.
May be a few holes in the wall before it's all said and done...

Anyway, tonight he demonstrated all by himself (with no fanfare, just
kinda matter-of-factly) that he's picked up one of the most
fundamental of all stagecraft skills.  He can open a bottle all by
himself, and not spill a drop.

Daddy's so proud... :)

------------------------------

Message-ID: <4584B39A.2000308 [at] dreampossible.ca>
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 22:03:54 -0500
From: Jim Hyslop <theatre [at] dreampossible.ca>
Organization: Dreampossible Inc.
Subject: Re: Top ten most dangerous toys
References: <list-39862463 [at] prxy.net> <list-39872532 [at] prxy.net> <list-39872958 [at] prxy.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-39872958 [at] prxy.net>

Delbert Hall wrote:
> This site brought back some fond memories from my childhood.  I had
> the Bat Masterson buckle gun.

Me too! I never knew that was what it was called, though, because it was
a hand-me-down from my older brother. The cap-firing mechanism was
broken, too. But I still had fun with it!

-- 
Jim Hyslop

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Message-ID: <4584B8BC.7020409 [at] dreampossible.ca>
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 22:25:48 -0500
From: Jim Hyslop <theatre [at] dreampossible.ca>
Organization: Dreampossible Inc.
Subject: Re: Top ten most dangerous toys
References: <list-39862463 [at] prxy.net> <list-39867415 [at] prxy.net>	 <list-39868968 [at] prxy.net> <list-39871909 [at] prxy.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-39871909 [at] prxy.net>

Brian Munroe wrote:
> On 12/16/06, Scott Parker <scparker [at] gmail.com> wrote:
>> During one of our visits to my kid's doctor, the first thing the dr.
>> looked for was bruises. upon finding a few: "ah, good," she said. "an
>> active child."
>>  my thought: I like this doctor......
> 
> 
> A different doctor, working under today's society, would be just as
> quick to call child welfare about the bruises.

Well, I would hope most well-trained and experienced doctors should be
able distinguish (in most cases) whether the source of a bruise was
normal childhood activities, or the result of abuse. The location and
patterns of bruises caused by, say, bumping into something is quite
different from a bruise resulting from being struck with a blunt object.

OTOH, there are the far-too-frequent cases of children whose abuse
somehow gets overlooked, until the coroner investigates.

-- 
Jim Hyslop

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Message-ID: <4584B941.9030309 [at] dreampossible.ca>
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 22:28:01 -0500
From: Jim Hyslop <theatre [at] dreampossible.ca>
Organization: Dreampossible Inc.
Subject: Re: Top ten most dangerous toys
References: <list-39879806 [at] prxy.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-39879806 [at] prxy.net>

FrankWood95 [at] aol.com wrote:
> I agree with the original post. I have spent 67 years learning how NOT to do 
> things. This implies a certain amount of minor damage. Wrapping kids up in 
> cotton wool will simply expose them to greater dangers when we unwrap them.

Alas, it seems the way things are going is to keep people wrapped in
cotton, even as adults. More and more legislation and lawsuits seem to
absolve people of their personal responsibilities. "It's not my fault!"
seems to be the common refrain.

-- 
Jim Hyslop

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Message-ID: <bsufntFRPLhFFw2m [at] ntlworld.com>
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 03:04:49 +0000
From: Clive Mitchell <bigclive1 [at] ntlworld.com>
Subject: Re: Good luck mojo
References: <list-39880033 [at] prxy.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-39880033 [at] prxy.net>

In message <list-39880033 [at] prxy.net>, CB <psyd [at] cox.net> writes
>Mine is stage left snax.  If I'm on the deck as an A2, there will be a 
>bowl (pile, bog, bag) of something sweet to sanck on when you get off 
>stage, or between cues, or whatever.  It's a magic equation that makes 
>actors cooperate, nice, and considerate.  It's pretty good at getting 
>the locals to consider you the 'good one' out of the bunch if they 
>decide they hate
>the production, too.

I leave a bowl of chocolate chunks interspersed with laxative.  It's 
like rectal Russian Roulette for actors.

--
Davie Dimmers.

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Message-ID: <es4eHYHJnLhFFw2q [at] ntlworld.com>
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 03:30:17 +0000
From: Clive Mitchell <bigclive1 [at] ntlworld.com>
Subject: Re: Top ten most dangerous toys
References: <list-39862463 [at] prxy.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-39862463 [at] prxy.net>

In message <list-39862463 [at] prxy.net>, Herrick Goldman 
<Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com> writes
>http://www.radarmagazine.com/features/2006/12/toys.php
>
>Mmmmm Jarts....

No mention of the Hop Rod, the fuel powered pogo stick where the plunger 
compressed the fuel then passed a magnet through a miniature magneto. 
The resulting blast would propel the rider up again for another super 
bounce.

Unfortunately it would also fire at any landing angle and send you 
forcibly back in the direction you came from.  People report seeing 
through second floor windows and then regaining consciousness lying on 
the ground surrounded by a big circle of people.

I want one!

-- 
Clive Mitchell
http://www.bigclive.com

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Message-ID: <FfFobXK+vLhFFw3f [at] ntlworld.com>
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 03:39:42 +0000
From: Clive Mitchell <bigclive1 [at] ntlworld.com>
Subject: Re: Top ten most dangerous toys
References: <list-39862463 [at] prxy.net> <list-39867415 [at] prxy.net>
 <list-39868968 [at] prxy.net> <list-39871909 [at] prxy.net> <list-39897008 [at] prxy.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-39897008 [at] prxy.net>

In message <list-39897008 [at] prxy.net>, Jim Hyslop 
<theatre [at] dreampossible.ca> writes
>Well, I would hope most well-trained and experienced doctors should be 
>able distinguish (in most cases) whether the source of a bruise was 
>normal childhood activities, or the result of abuse. The location and 
>patterns of bruises caused by, say, bumping into something is quite 
>different from a bruise resulting from being struck with a blunt object.

That's where stun guns are quite handy.  They don't leave a mark on the 
kids at all.

-- 
Billy Bad Dad.

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From: "Steven Santos" <steven [at] simplycircus.com>
Subject: RE: Top ten most dangerous toys
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 23:17:24 -0500
Message-ID: <FDEPKKINFFFAJOOJMIKBGEAKELAA.steven [at] simplycircus.com>
In-Reply-To: <list-39897276 [at] prxy.net>

> No mention of the Hop Rod, the fuel powered pogo stick where the plunger
> compressed the fuel then passed a magnet through a miniature magneto.
> The resulting blast would propel the rider up again for another super
> bounce.

Add in a solid state gyro and a fire control circuit, and this sounds like a
great circus act in the making!

----------------------------------------------------------------------
Steven Santos
Director, Simply Circus, Inc.
Email: Steven [at] SimplyCircus.com
 Mail: PO BOX 620753
       Newton, MA 02462
Phone: 781-799-4938
 eFax: 309-214-0899
  Web: www.SimplyCircus.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net]On Behalf Of Clive
> Mitchell
> Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 10:30 PM
> To: Stagecraft
> Subject: Re: Top ten most dangerous toys
>
>
> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see <http://stagecraft.theprices.net/>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> In message <list-39862463 [at] prxy.net>, Herrick Goldman
> <Herrick [at] HGLightingDesign.com> writes
> >http://www.radarmagazine.com/features/2006/12/toys.php
> >
> >Mmmmm Jarts....
>
>
>


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In-Reply-To: <list-39897276 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-39862463 [at] prxy.net> <list-39897276 [at] prxy.net>
Message-Id: <8BDF3408-3C76-4C76-ADFB-10FFB1ED51C4 [at] rochester.rr.com>
From: Bruce Purdy <bpurdy [at] rochester.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Top ten most dangerous toys
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 23:53:09 -0500


On 16 Dec 2006, at 22:30, Clive Mitchell wrote:

> No mention of the Hop Rod, the fuel powered pogo stick where the  
> plunger compressed the fuel then passed a magnet through a  
> miniature magneto. The resulting blast would propel the rider up  
> again for another super bounce.

<Snip>
> I want one!

	So do I! I googled "Hop Rod", and found an interesting article:
http://www.post-gazette.com/healthscience/20010528bowgosidehealth9.asp

	It also talks about similar technology used in Russian army boots  
that allow 13' strides and 25mph running speeds! They want to market  
them for "Extreme sports". I have to wonder how you stop!

Bruce
____________________
Bruce Purdy
Technical Director
Smith Opera House




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Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 21:15:19 -0800
From: Jerry Durand <jdurand [at] interstellar.com>
Subject: Re: Top ten most dangerous toys
In-reply-to: <list-39899346 [at] prxy.net>
Message-id: <0752ADC0-E795-40C0-BE85-C9AF2098C917 [at] interstellar.com>
References: <list-39862463 [at] prxy.net> <list-39897276 [at] prxy.net>
 <list-39899346 [at] prxy.net>

On Dec 16, 2006, at 8:53 PM, Bruce Purdy wrote:
> 	So do I! I googled "Hop Rod", and found an interesting article:
> http://www.post-gazette.com/healthscience/20010528bowgosidehealth9.asp
>

I'm on the road and just catching up on mail...

Back in my high-school engineering class (yes, we had one!) we  
studied the petrol-powered pogo-stick.  The one we had plans for was  
a two stroke engine with no spark plug.  A wire stuck into the  
cylinder and the piston hit it on the way up.  Zap...bang...you're in  
the air.  Very simple, only one moving part (not counting the reed  
valve).

---
Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc.
Los Gatos, California, USA
tel:  +1-408-356-3886, USA Toll Free:  866-356-3886
www.interstellar.com, skype:  jerrydurand





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Message-ID: <AIRZe2NvSNhFFw2j [at] ntlworld.com>
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 05:25:03 +0000
From: Clive Mitchell <bigclive1 [at] ntlworld.com>
Subject: Re: Top ten most dangerous toys
References: <list-39862463 [at] prxy.net> <list-39897276 [at] prxy.net>
 <list-39899346 [at] prxy.net>
In-Reply-To: <list-39899346 [at] prxy.net>

In message <list-39899346 [at] prxy.net>, Bruce Purdy 
<bpurdy [at] rochester.rr.com> writes
>       It also talks about similar technology used in Russian army 
>boots that allow 13' strides and 25mph running speeds! They want to 
>market them for "Extreme sports". I have to wonder how you stop!

Apparently if you click your heels together it splits your pelvis.


-- 
Clive Mitchell
http://www.bigclive.com

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Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 21:26:58 -0800 (PST)
From: b Ricie <b_ricie [at] yahoo.com>
Subject: Conversations in drag
In-Reply-To: <list-39865600 [at] prxy.net>
Message-ID: <800275.70507.qm [at] web50608.mail.yahoo.com>


I know this business can be surreal from time to
time,well I guess today was one of those times. I am
currently working a "Nutcracker" for a local company
with little money, so I wear many hats. Those hats
include, Designer, Production Manager, TD, Stage
Manager, and Mother Ginger. We have started act II
with fog and had no problems, until today(No, we were
not using the "Opera fog and the dancers did not seem
to care). Yup, you guessed it, fog tripped sensors in
the fire alarm system and forced evacuation of the
venue. Doom,you would have been proud, the fire
captain even complimented us on the efficient
evacuation of the building. So, we get the 1000+
Dancers/audience back in, re-start act II and as I am
getting into costume the fire captain wants to have a
word with me. We step into the hall. He is dressed in
full gear and I am wearing big red cheeks, 3" long
eyelashes, putting on 5'tall bloomers, having drywall
stilts strapped to my feet, all while having a very
serious conversation with the captain. My favorite
question from his interrogation was "What? Are you
Mother Ginger?"  (me)"Uhh, Yeah, how did ya know?"
(him)"My daughter danced for 10 years" (me) "Oh
really? So, you ever consider doing Mother Ginger?"...
anyhow, as I was having my dress, which is the size of
a small blimp, lowered on to me did it hit me that
that was probably not every day normal multitasking.
Just another something that ya don't see every day.
Happy Nutrackering one and all. Stay strong, the end
is near.

Brian Rice 
508-685-0716
b_ricie [at] yahoo.com
"Blessed are the cracked: For it is they who let in the 
light."

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Message-ID: <f23a0f840612162201v1879eaaft8ed5f252f9e4af7 [at] mail.gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 01:01:19 -0500
From: "Paul Schreiner" <paulschreiner42 [at] gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Conversations in drag
In-Reply-To: <list-39900107 [at] prxy.net>
References: <list-39865600 [at] prxy.net> <list-39900107 [at] prxy.net>

> anyhow, as I was having my dress, which is the size of
> a small blimp, lowered on to me did it hit me that
> that was probably not every day normal multitasking.

I love this job. :)

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Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 22:08:13 -0800 (PST)
From: Michael Heinicke <mheinicke [at] sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: New Yahoo Group for Entertainment Electricity
In-Reply-To: <list-39884361 [at] prxy.net>
Message-ID: <590513.10646.qm [at] web82213.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I don't know the current status of the list, but there
was a similar group set up a while ago. It hasn't been
very active, so I don't know if it is still around or
not. Just FYI.

Mike Heinicke


--- John Huntington <jhuntington [at] fastmail.net> wrote:
> Now that we have some freshly certified
> entertainment electricians 
> (including myself)  I thought I'd set up a Yahoo
> Group to discuss 
> electrical issues related to entertainment.  The
> group, of course, is 
> not just for certified electricians, but for
> anything entertainment 
> electric related...
> 
>
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EntertainmentElectricity
> 
> to join...
> 
> John Huntington
> http://www.zircondesigns.com/
> 


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Message-ID: <003901c721b6$3a0c5640$e28aaa43 [at] DonTaco>
From: "Don Taco" <taco [at] peak.org>
References: <list-39878970 [at] prxy.net>
Subject: Re: Top ten most dangerous toys
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 00:34:49 -0800


From: <FrankWood95 [at] aol.com>
> I learnt to use edged tools with the blade edge away from me by cutting
> myself with a chisel.

   I learned to use edged tools with the blade edge away from me WITHOUT 
cutting myself with a chisel.

  Honestly, Frank, which one of us should be bragging? 


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References: <list-39838315 [at] prxy.net>
Message-Id: <5C49DB7B-89F6-4B9E-BFC8-4C0BC162D343 [at] theprices.net>
From: Noah Price <stagecraft-web [at] theprices.net>
Subject: Re: Digest # 1053 Missing
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 00:46:45 -0800


On Dec 15, 2006, at 11:25 AM, CB wrote:

> Did I miss anything?  Anyone got a copy hanging around that they  
> could Fwd
> to me?  Noah, any idea why I would suddenly miss that one?

The logs show it was delivered. Perhaps diverted as spam somehow?

You can see 1053 here:
<http://stagecraft.theprices.net/digest/2006/12_December/>

Thanks,

Noah

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Message-ID: <1264.205.215.253.15.1166350699.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org>
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    <list-39895547 [at] prxy.net>
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 02:18:19 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: Top ten most dangerous toys
From: "Bill Nelson" <billn [at] peak.org>

> Anyway, tonight he demonstrated all by himself (with no fanfare, just
> kinda matter-of-factly) that he's picked up one of the most
> fundamental of all stagecraft skills.  He can open a bottle all by
> himself, and not spill a drop.
>
> Daddy's so proud... :)

And I am happy that you are giving the youngster a chance to take some
minor supervised risks and learn new skills.

Many decades ago, before the moon had yet cooled, I had a friend that
moved out on her own. I found out that she was eating only microwaved
food, as that is all she knew how to prepare. She did not know what a can
opener was - or a bottle opener. Needless to say, I quickly taught her the
basics of those primary skills. I also taught her how to safely hand wash
dishes and kitchen implements, after she cut herself washing a sharp
knife.

Bill



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Message-ID: <45851CB5.8030201 [at] ef-ae.com>
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 14:32:21 +0400
From: Simon Shuker <simon [at] ef-ae.com>
Organization: The Events Factory
Subject: Re: Top ten most dangerous toys
References: <list-39862463 [at] prxy.net> <list-39867415 [at] prxy.net> <list-39868968 [at] prxy.net> <list-39871909 [at] prxy.net> <list-39897008 [at] prxy.net> <list-39897367 [at] prxy.net>
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Clive Mitchell wrote:
<blockquote cite="midlist-39897367 [at] prxy.net" type="cite">For info,
archives &amp; UNSUBSCRIBE, see
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In message <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:list-39897008 [at] prxy.net">&lt;list-39897008 [at] prxy.net&gt;</a>, Jim Hyslop
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into something is quite different from a bruise resulting from being
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