X-Scanned-By: RAE MPP/Clamd http://raeinternet.com/mpp X-Scanned-By: This message was scanned by MPP Lite Edition (www.messagepartners.com)! Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.10) with PIPE id 39770766; Thu, 14 Dec 2006 03:00:26 -0800 X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2.10 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: List-Archive: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #1053 Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 03:00:22 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #1053 1. Very Sad Day for Theater by "Tony Olson" 2. Re: Very Sad Day for Theater by Bruce Purdy 3. Re: Very Sad Day for Theater by Andy Champ-Doran 4. Re: This is a table. by Stephen Litterst 5. Re: This is a table. by Simon Shuker 6. Combined threads by Bruce Purdy 7. Re: Combined threads by "LES LIND" 8. 20A straight blade connectors by "Nathan Kahn" 9. Re: 20A straight blade connectors by "Joe Golden" 10. Re: 20A straight blade connectors by Stephen Rees 11. Re: Very Sad Day for Theater by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 12. Re: 20A straight blade connectors by "Richard Wolpert" 13. Re: 20A straight blade connectors by John Huntington 14. Time for New Band saw by "Ben Hain" 15. Re: Time for New Band saw by Robert Graham 16. Re: Time for New Band saw by Andy Champ-Doran 17. Re: 20A straight blade connectors by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 18. Re: Combined threads by Andy Champ-Doran 19. Re: 20A straight blade connectors by Stephen Rees 20. Re: This is a table. by Josh Ratty 21. Re: This is a table. by Clive Mitchell 22. Re: This is a table. by Josh Ratty 23. Re: The stagecraft curse?? by "Tony Miller" 24. Re: This is a table. by CB 25. Re: Brick Formula by CB 26. Re: Inside Joke by CB 27. Re: Setting fires with a Laser by "RD" 28. Re: Inside Joke by Andrew Vance 29. Re: Inside Joke by Rigger 30. Re: Time for New Band saw by "Steven Santos" 31. gloves - seeking sources by MissWisc [at] aol.com 32. Re: gloves - seeking sources by "Delbert Hall" 33. Re: gloves - seeking sources by "Tim Catlett" 34. Re: Brick Formula by "ladesigners [at] juno.com" 35. Re: Inside Joke by "Occy" 36. Re: The Deadly Sinking Floor by "Occy" 37. Re: This is a table. by "Occy" *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-Id: <200612131143.kBDBhQmn003591 [at] flpi102.sbcis.sbc.com> From: "Tony Olson" Subject: Very Sad Day for Theater Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 05:43:21 -0600 In-Reply-To: I just received the sad news that Door Off Broadway (In Door County WI) will be closing its doors after only 6 years in the Dinner Theater Business. The Theater was a great venue but has not been able to sustain itself due to falling tourism. As was said in the closing email sent by the co-owners "It's too bad one can't just work for fun" Why is it that so many people can't see the magic of Live theater...instead they glue themselves to bull-crap on the television or movie screen. And heck it cost almost the same amount to go to see a movie anymore! Tony Olson Tech. Dir. Theater For Young Audiences- Sheboygan ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <82D730AC-41AA-4A0F-B758-64A6C9A1A057 [at] rochester.rr.com> From: Bruce Purdy Subject: Re: Very Sad Day for Theater Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 10:52:25 -0500 On 13 Dec 2006, at 06:43, Tony Olson wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see stagecraft.theprices.net/> > --------------------------------------------------- > > I just received the sad news that Door Off Broadway (In Door County > WI) will > be closing its doors after only 6 years in the Dinner Theater > Business. The > Theater was a great venue but has not been able to sustain itself > due to > falling tourism. I just googled and checked out their Website. "What's playing" fearures "Golf, the musical" which closed last August. "Coming attractions" features "Same time Next year" which showed through October - two months ago! It looks to me like they closed some time ago - or at least stopped bothering to keep up with pesky things like their website. > And heck it cost almost the > same amount to go to see a movie anymore! $42.95 is a lot more than I pay for a movie and a dinner. Still, I agree that it's sad when any Theatre dies. Bruce ____________________ Bruce Purdy Technical Director Smith Opera House ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20061213111234.ntt0ze7ug9w4owsc [at] webmail.bard.edu> Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 11:12:34 -0500 From: Andy Champ-Doran Subject: Re: Very Sad Day for Theater Tony, While I agree that it is, indeed, a sad thing that theaters are =20 closing, I don't think that we can blame it all on lazy or cheap =20 audiences. My family, for instance, would love to see more live =20 theater. But around here, even the small community theaters routinely =20 charge $18 for children and $25 for adults to see an all-volunteer =20 production of _Guys and Dolls_. Sure, we go to the hour-long =20 abbreviated "selections from" shows they do for the kids on Saturday =20 mornings, and we'll try to get to every puppet show and children's =20 theater production we can, but that's still closing on 30 bucks. Movie matinees around these parts go for $4 for first-run, and $2 at =20 the second-run multiscreen mall. And the first-run night shows around =20 these parts don't charge more than $10.75. I can take the whole =20 family to a local Single A ballgame for $40.00, parking and hot dogs =20 included. There are bunches of free to cheap art galleries, =20 festivals, concerts, and the like, all vying for the local =20 entertainment dollar. Or, my kids will get together with a bunch of =20 the other neighborhood kids and make a movie or put on a carnival or =20 do their own play. That doesn't cost all the money left in the account. And, sadly, many producers and theater owners, even at those prices, =20 feel that everyone should "just work for fun." I've even had the =20 same folks tell me that I couldn't get comps for the shows I'm working =20 on because, " We gotta make money somewhere." That's not just one =20 guy, and that's not just at a community theater level. Most everyone on this list has worked in countless paid and unpaid =20 capacities in the field. I feel fortunate that I can do what I do for =20 a living, and I will continue to volunteer as much time and effort as =20 I can to our local groups. But I can't blame the audience that doesn't =20 show, and I can't afford the $90 to get in with the family to much of =20 what is the local theater around here. These are my own not-very-well-organized thoughts. I'm sorry if I offend. Andy Champ-Doran Technical Director Bard College Departments of Dance and Theater Annandale-on-Hudson, NY 12504 (845) 758-7962 Quoting Tony Olson : > I just received the sad news that Door Off Broadway (In Door County WI) wi= ll > be closing its doors after only 6 years in the Dinner Theater Business. T= he > Theater was a great venue but has not been able to sustain itself due to > falling tourism. As was said in the closing email sent by the co-owners > "It's too bad one can't just work for fun" Why is it that so many people > can't see the magic of Live theater...instead they glue themselves to > bull-crap on the television or movie screen. And heck it cost almost the > same amount to go to see a movie anymore! > Tony Olson > Tech. Dir. > Theater For Young Audiences- Sheboygan > > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <458026C5.3070406 [at] gmail.com> Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 11:13:57 -0500 From: Stephen Litterst Organization: University of Delaware Subject: Re: This is a table. References:

In-Reply-To: Scott Parker wrote: > --------------------------------------------------- > > Very cool... > Take a look at these views: > http://www.dbfletcher.com/files/dbfletcher_capstan_ilona.mov > > This one shows a pause to save your fingers. > http://www.dbfletcher.com/files/dbfletcher_capstan_schwartz.mov A friend contacted Fletcher about pricing and availability. $95,000 plus $3,500 to ship it. Steve L. -- Stephen Litterst Technical Operations Supervisor litterst [at] udel.edu Center for the Arts 302/831-0601 University of Delaware ------------------------------ Message-ID: <45802AD5.6030908 [at] ef-ae.com> Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 20:31:17 +0400 From: Simon Shuker Organization: The Events Factory Subject: Re: This is a table. References:

In-Reply-To: so not only does it save space on your boat, it saves space in your wallet. Simon Stephen Litterst wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Scott Parker wrote: >> --------------------------------------------------- >> >> Very cool... >> Take a look at these views: >> http://www.dbfletcher.com/files/dbfletcher_capstan_ilona.mov >> >> This one shows a pause to save your fingers. >> http://www.dbfletcher.com/files/dbfletcher_capstan_schwartz.mov > > A friend contacted Fletcher about pricing and availability. $95,000 > plus $3,500 to ship it. > > Steve L. > ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <60F2217E-C5D7-4658-AC36-16A2F06CC3F4 [at] rochester.rr.com> From: Bruce Purdy Subject: Combined threads Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 12:14:37 -0500 On 13 Dec 2006, Andy Champ-Doran wrote of ticket prices: > But I can't blame the audience that doesn't show, and I can't > afford the $90 to get in with the family to much of what is the > local theater around here. and Stephen Litterst wrote of the table: > A friend contacted Fletcher about pricing and availability. > $95,000 plus $3,500 to ship it. Those tables make Theatre tickets look downright cheap! Bruce ____________________ Bruce Purdy Technical Director Smith Opera House ------------------------------ Message-Id: <457FF0D1020000290000323C [at] mailhost.nesd.k12.pa.us> Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 12:23:45 -0500 From: "LES LIND" Subject: Re: Combined threads References:

In-Reply-To: At that price one would think these tables would open and close by themselves. No pinched fingers...ummm I'll bet there are sensors on the edges of the table top segments that prevent the top from closing till the the offending object is removed... after all at that price...... Les Les Lind Northeastern High School Manchester, PA >>> Bruce Purdy 12/13/06 12:14:37 PM >>> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- On 13 Dec 2006, Andy Champ-Doran wrote of ticket prices: > A friend contacted Fletcher about pricing and availability. > $95,000 plus $3,500 to ship it. Those tables make Theatre tickets look downright cheap! Bruce ____________________ Bruce Purdy Technical Director Smith Opera House ------------------------------ Message-ID: <77fad3270612130931l1f37019dna38d0a1eabf822df [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 12:31:52 -0500 From: "Nathan Kahn" Subject: 20A straight blade connectors Hello All, Is there such a thing as a 20A 120V parallel blade connector, or are they perpendicular only? I thought I'd seen one, but now looking online I'm unable to fnd anything. (I'm refering to U-Ground style connectors, not twistlocks, stage pins, etc.) TIA, Nathan -- Look Solutions USA, Ltd. Toll-Free: 1-800-426-4189 Email: usa [at] looksolutions.com Web: www.looksolutionsusa.com ------------------------------ From: "Joe Golden" Subject: RE: 20A straight blade connectors Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 09:36:32 -0800 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Hubbell 5366 and 5369 http://www.hubbellcatalog.com/wiring/section-a-datasheet.asp?FAM=Straight_Bl ade&PN=HBL5366C http://www.hubbellcatalog.com/wiring/section-a-datasheet.asp?FAM=Straight_Bl ade&PN=HBL5369C Joe Golden -----Original Message----- Is there such a thing as a 20A 120V parallel blade connector, or are they perpendicular only? I thought I'd seen one, but now looking online I'm unable to fnd anything. (I'm refering to U-Ground style connectors, not twistlocks, stage pins, etc.) TIA, Nathan -- Look Solutions USA, Ltd. Toll-Free: 1-800-426-4189 Email: usa [at] looksolutions.com Web: www.looksolutionsusa.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 12:39:00 -0500 Subject: Re: 20A straight blade connectors From: Stephen Rees Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Nathan, I think this is what you are seeking. http://www.woodhead.com/products/electrical/wiringdevices/ Steve Rees, TD SUNY-Fredonia On 12/13/06 12:31 PM, "Nathan Kahn" wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Hello All, > > Is there such a thing as a 20A 120V parallel blade connector, or are > they perpendicular only? I thought I'd seen one, but now looking > online I'm unable to fnd anything. > > (I'm refering to U-Ground style connectors, not twistlocks, stage pins, etc.) > > TIA, > Nathan ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 12:57:15 EST Subject: Re: Very Sad Day for Theater In a message dated 13/12/06 16:13:45 GMT Standard Time, doran [at] bard.edu write= s: > Movie matinees around these parts go for $4 for first-run, and $2 at =20 > the second-run multiscreen mall. And the first-run night shows around =20 > these parts don't charge more than $10.75. I can take the whole =20 > family to a local Single A ballgame for $40.00, parking and hot dogs =20 > included.=20 Just don't develop a taste for opera. The cheapest seat with a reasonable=20 view of the stage costs =A360. These days, $120. A visit to Glyndebourne wil= l cost=20 the two of us something like =A3250 including dinner. Bayreuth is worse, sin= ce=20 you need to be a friend of the theatre to stand a reasonable chance of a=20 ticket. This costs =A3400 per year, and the tickets ae about =A3100. The alt= ernative is=20 to keep applying, year on year. After seven years you MAY well get a ticket.= =20 Then you have the cost of getting there, and of a hotel. Mercifully, meals a= t a=20 reasonable cost are easy. Frank Wood ------------------------------ From: "Richard Wolpert" Subject: RE: 20A straight blade connectors Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 12:58:44 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: NEMA standard for 20A., 125V. is the perpendicular blade. Of course lots of people use the 15A. "parallel" blade for 20A. anyway... Not that I would ever condone such practice. Richard A.Wolpert President Union Connector Co., Inc. 40 Dale Street West Babylon, NY 11704 Ph: 631-753-9550 ext. 204 Fx: 631-753-9560 richw [at] unionconnector.com -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net]On Behalf Of Joe Golden Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 12:37 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: 20A straight blade connectors For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Hubbell 5366 and 5369 http://www.hubbellcatalog.com/wiring/section-a-datasheet.asp?FAM=Straight_Bl ade&PN=HBL5366C http://www.hubbellcatalog.com/wiring/section-a-datasheet.asp?FAM=Straight_Bl ade&PN=HBL5369C Joe Golden -----Original Message----- Is there such a thing as a 20A 120V parallel blade connector, or are they perpendicular only? I thought I'd seen one, but now looking online I'm unable to fnd anything. (I'm refering to U-Ground style connectors, not twistlocks, stage pins, etc.) TIA, Nathan -- Look Solutions USA, Ltd. Toll-Free: 1-800-426-4189 Email: usa [at] looksolutions.com Web: www.looksolutionsusa.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <45804879.8070709 [at] fastmail.net> Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 13:37:45 -0500 From: John Huntington Subject: Re: 20A straight blade connectors References: In-Reply-To: Joe Golden wrote on 12/13/2006 12:36 PM, : > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Hubbell 5366 and 5369 > http://www.hubbellcatalog.com/wiring/section-a-datasheet.asp?FAM=Straight_Bl > ade&PN=HBL5366C > I think you should check the NEMA diagram at the bottom of this web page--shows a perpendicular blade. I think they probably just didn't re-take the main picture. > Nathan, > I think this is what you are seeking. > > > http://www.woodhead.com/products/electrical/wiringdevices/ > > Steve Rees, TD I think the same goes for this one... Look at the PDF and it shows a perpendicular blade on the plug, while the receptacle can accept either 15A or 20A connectors. John ------------------------------ Message-Id: Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 12:44:43 -0600 From: "Ben Hain" Subject: Time for New Band saw Hi, I've been doing research on new band saws for our scene shop. The guy at Thomas Tool said the 'ShopFox' brand was made by Powermatic but I'm not sure I believe him...they kinda look similar but according to the Powermatic website they make Jet and Wilton brands. Any comments on Shopfox equipment? Recommendations for or against? If this has to come out of the seasonal theater department budget I'm only going to have $500 at most. If I can get the capital improvement money I'd be looking for $1000 or so. Band saw comments anyone? Thanks- Ben Benjamin Hain Technical Director Hill Theater Rochester Community and Technical College Rochester Minnesota 507-285-7201 Ben.Hain [at] roch.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 13:57:56 -0500 Subject: Re: Time for New Band saw From: Robert Graham Message-ID: In-Reply-To: I've had pretty good experience with Grizzly( http://www.grizzly.com ) tools. They may not be what one might consider 'high end,' but they have taken a beating in my scene shop, and are very cost effective. They have a few models for under $500. -Rob Graham On 12/13/06 1:44 PM, "Ben Hain" wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Hi, > > I've been doing research on new band saws for our scene shop. The guy > at Thomas Tool said the 'ShopFox' brand was made by Powermatic but I'm > not sure I believe him...they kinda look similar but according to the > Powermatic website they make Jet and Wilton brands. > > Any comments on Shopfox equipment? Recommendations for or against? > > If this has to come out of the seasonal theater department budget I'm > only going to have $500 at most. If I can get the capital improvement > money I'd be looking for $1000 or so. > > Band saw comments anyone? > > Thanks- > > Ben > > Benjamin Hain > Technical Director > Hill Theater > Rochester Community and Technical College > Rochester Minnesota > 507-285-7201 > Ben.Hain [at] roch.edu > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20061213142424.twpbn1ucu88ckgkw [at] webmail.bard.edu> Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 14:24:24 -0500 From: Andy Champ-Doran Subject: Re: Time for New Band saw References: In-Reply-To: Ben, A quick look at WMH Tool Group says they have Jet, Wilton, Power Max, =20 Performax, Columbian, Polish Master, and Wax Master tools. I see that =20 Shop Fox is sold from Woodstock International. I don't know much more than that, but I do know a guy that retails =20 Shop Fox Machinery and WMH brands. Try Jim Zitz at Warren Cutlery =20 (845) 876-3444. He's the owner, and he really knows his stuff. He =20 can tell you provenance and performance. Good Luck, Andy Champ-Doran Technical Director Bard College Departments of Dance and Theater Annandale-on-Hudson, NY 12504 (845) 758-7962 Quoting Ben Hain : > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Hi, > > I've been doing research on new band saws for our scene shop. The guy > at Thomas Tool said the 'ShopFox' brand was made by Powermatic but I'm > not sure I believe him...they kinda look similar but according to the > Powermatic website they make Jet and Wilton brands. > > Any comments on Shopfox equipment? Recommendations for or against? > > If this has to come out of the seasonal theater department budget I'm > only going to have $500 at most. If I can get the capital improvement > money I'd be looking for $1000 or so. > > Band saw comments anyone? > > Thanks- > > Ben > > Benjamin Hain > Technical Director > Hill Theater > Rochester Community and Technical College > Rochester Minnesota > 507-285-7201 > Ben.Hain [at] roch.edu > ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 14:24:56 EST Subject: Re: 20A straight blade connectors In a message dated 13/12/06 18:00:05 GMT Standard Time, richw [at] unionconnector.com writes: > NEMA standard for 20A., 125V. is the perpendicular blade. Of course lots of > people use the 15A. "parallel" blade for 20A. anyway... Not that I would > ever condone such practice. This sort of thing can be difficult. The standard UK 15A connector has enormous fat pins, 1/4" diameter, but is rated at 15A. When we rewired, with 5KW (20A) dimmers for the cyc top and bottom, we felt it right to put in splitting breakers, to keep the loads within the limit. As an engineer, I believe that this was not needed. I have seen many smaller connectors with equal and higher ratings. But,that's what it says on the label. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20061213142921.kzm3524kao4wooc0 [at] webmail.bard.edu> Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 14:29:21 -0500 From: Andy Champ-Doran Subject: Re: Combined threads References:

In-Reply-To: What if they put those tables in your local dinner theater? Andy Champ-Doran Quoting Bruce Purdy : > On 13 Dec 2006, Andy Champ-Doran wrote of ticket prices: >> But I can't blame the audience that doesn't show, and I can't >> afford the $90 to get in with the family to much of what is the >> local theater around here. > and Stephen Litterst wrote of the table: >> A friend contacted Fletcher about pricing and availability. >> $95,000 plus $3,500 to ship it. > Those tables make Theatre tickets look downright cheap! > Bruce ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 14:46:53 -0500 Subject: Re: 20A straight blade connectors From: Stephen Rees Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Arrrgh! Steve On 12/13/06 1:37 PM, "John Huntington" wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Joe Golden wrote on 12/13/2006 12:36 PM, : >> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see >> --------------------------------------------------- >> >> Hubbell 5366 and 5369 >> http://www.hubbellcatalog.com/wiring/section-a-datasheet.asp?FAM=Straight_Bl >> ade&PN=HBL5366C >> > I think you should check the NEMA diagram at the bottom of this web > page--shows a perpendicular blade. I think they probably just didn't > re-take the main picture. > >> Nathan, >> I think this is what you are seeking. >> >> >> http://www.woodhead.com/products/electrical/wiringdevices/ >> >> Steve Rees, TD > I think the same goes for this one... Look at the PDF and it shows a > perpendicular blade on the plug, while the receptacle can accept either > 15A or 20A connectors. > > John > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 17:28:27 -0500 From: Josh Ratty Subject: RE: This is a table. In-reply-to: Reply-to: josh.ratty [at] verizon.net Message-id: <000001c71f06$02e9a580$6401a8c0 [at] Rattys> -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Simon Shuker Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 11:31 AM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: This is a table. so not only does it save space on your boat, it saves space in your wallet. Simon Well the boat does that anyway, but the people who can afford these boats have amounts of money that boggle the mind. Most boats of this size require a full time crew, and I can't imagine that being cheap, and if you think filling the family car at the pump is expensive try one of these. Josh Ratty ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 00:05:22 +0000 From: Clive Mitchell Subject: Re: This is a table. References:

In-Reply-To: In message , Josh Ratty writes >Well the boat does that anyway, but the people who can afford these >boats have amounts of money that boggle the mind. Most boats of this >size require a full time crew, and I can't imagine that being cheap, >and if you think filling the family car at the pump is expensive try >one of these. Yeees, look at my wondrous table. I bet you wish you could afford one too. Not to worry. I'm sure "IKEA" may do a simple one in chipboard for peasants someday. Champers anyone? -- Rupert Thatcher. The well connected weaponry reseller. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 19:23:05 -0500 From: Josh Ratty Subject: RE: This is a table. In-reply-to: Reply-to: josh.ratty [at] verizon.net Message-id: <000201c71f16$05f9ff80$6401a8c0 [at] Rattys> -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Clive Mitchell Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 7:05 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: This is a table. Yeees, look at my wondrous table. I bet you wish you could afford one too. Not to worry. I'm sure "IKEA" may do a simple one in chipboard for peasants someday. I'd pay money to see someone put that table together with the little bent hex head wrench that comes from IKEA. Josh Ratty ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 01:00:10 +0000 From: "Tony Miller" Subject: Re: The stagecraft curse?? In-Reply-To: References: My record for a cancellation is when I was working on the millennium eve stage managing a stage built by the side of the Thames in London with dancers and DJs entertaining the crowd. The show was pulled at 10.30pm on new years eve because it was becoming "dangerously congested" at least in the eyes of the police. I was left with a backstage area where we could party, with food and drink and our own toilet and being paid in full including a 500 English pounds per day bonus (that's around $800). It was a fantastic place to watch the fireworks and invite interesting looking people to join us. If that could only happen every New Year. Have a good festive season Tony Miller. ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20061213174751.00c97e28 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 17:47:51 From: CB Subject: RE: This is a table. >Cool, but my definition of "high end yacht" does not include the phrase >"space is at a premium". Pleasure boats are nothing more than another mortgage that comes with a rent. A hole in the water that you have to keep pouring money in to keep the water out. Who was it that said that You could get away cheaper by burning fifties in a cold shower with a bucket of putrid fish guts mixed with diesel fuel to stand in? Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20061213175452.00c97e28 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 17:54:52 From: CB Subject: Re: Brick Formula >Are you suggesting that California is not a part of the real world? Uhm, no, but twenty million Californians can't be wrong! (Or, can they?) Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20061213181215.00c97e28 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 18:12:15 From: CB Subject: Re: Inside Joke >Nice center console, Chris... >(See? It *is* alweays about the beer) You likey? Yeah, that's the work of the local human garbage. Lil bast.. er, dickenses broke the window out of that truck, by prying it out, mind you, doing over a grand worth of damage, to steal a CD player and an amp that you could buy for $30 US at any swap meet. I am *not* one of those sound guys that has to show you that he subscribes to all of those e-mails programs promising that it'll get bigger by beating you with his audiohile car stereo. That's so ghetto, anyways. Anyhoo, what I was running was the stuff that a buddy of mine had pulled out of a coupla cars when we was installing the afore-mentioned audiophile stereoes in the automobiles of someone less satisfied with his endowments, and kindly donated them to replace my factory AM radio. These jerks did the window and then did the console, in a golf course parking lot, in the middle of the day (somewhere between 11:30 and 12:30). The onliest really cool thing about the stereo setup is that I had put a coupla 1/4" jacks that interrupted the door speakers so I could put a coupla boxes on sticks outside the truck at the drive-in, where they send the movie's soundtrack over a local FM broadcast. Other than that, the stuff could have been found in a dumpster. I mean, you can tell just from that photo that the appearence of the truck isn't something that I prize. It's a work truck, cost me less than a hunnert bucks, and I'm gonna drive it like a rented mule till it stops and then pretend I don't know it anymore. On a more recent note, I've discovered that the Leinie's pull is a bit too tall, as it hits the steering wheel trying to get into first, and I can knock myself out of gear if I'm turning fairly sharply, throwing elbows. I've had to go to the Harp pull, and I have a Red Hook ESB in stand-by. nyone near enough to Chippewa falls to see if they want to donate a shorter one? ; > Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "RD" Subject: RE: Setting fires with a Laser Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 18:52:30 -0700 Message-ID: <000501c71f22$862e9f60$6501a8c0 [at] doom1> In-Reply-To: Twas Doom -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Rigger Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 7:41 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: Setting fires with a Laser For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- At 2:17 AM +0000 12/13/06, Clive Mitchell wrote: >>It's not wise to annoy people who carry little forged chunks of >> steel above your head, y'know. > > Oh yeah? Well what's this in my hand? Oh!.... It appears to be > the camlok that was earthing your truss. I wonder where it goes... > Oops! A bolt appears to have slipped in the end and bridged it to > that big dangerous busbar. Did somebody scream? ;) [*shrug*] Whatever... You're the one that's getting rained on by falling bodies. You should've stuck to dodging shackles. -- Dave Vick rigger [at] tds.net "Please Sir", said Alice to the Mad Hatter in a quiet voice, "I should like to purchase a handgun while it is still legal." ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: Cc: psyd [at] cox.net (CB) From: Andrew Vance Subject: Re: Inside Joke Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 21:06:19 -0500 On 13 Dec, 2006, at 18:12 , CB wrote: > nyone near enough to Chippewa falls to see if they want to donate a > shorter > one? ; > I will be in about 7 months. If you're still looking, let me know and I'll see if I can work it into my July travels. Of course, there is always e-bay. Here's some links to auctions for Leinie's tap handles List of auctions: http://tinyurl.com/ybevcj Original: http://tinyurl.com/yggbq Berry Weiss: http://tinyurl.com/ymxnqg Oktoberfest: http://tinyurl.com/yk62rx Don't know if they're any shorter than the one you've got, but worth looking into. Enjoy! -- Sincerely, Andrew Vance Lighting Designer atvanceld [at] gmail.com ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 21:14:29 -0500 From: Rigger Subject: Re: Inside Joke At 6:12 PM -0500 12/13/06, CB wrote: > These jerks did the window and then did the > console, in a golf course parking lot, in the middle of the day (somewhere > between 11:30 and 12:30). thereby proving that golf courses are the work of the Devil. -- Dave Vick rigger [at] tds.net "Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he machine-gunned the survivors ------------------------------ From: "Steven Santos" Subject: RE: Time for New Band saw Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 21:51:28 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: (God, am I ever gunna fry for this....) > I've been doing research on new band saws for our scene shop. Yes, but do they have a stopsaw version? (heat - slowly building...;) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Steven Santos Director, Simply Circus, Inc. Email: Steven [at] SimplyCircus.com Mail: PO BOX 620753 Newton, MA 02462 Phone: 781-799-4938 eFax: 309-214-0899 Web: www.SimplyCircus.com ------------------------------ From: MissWisc [at] aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 22:30:56 EST Subject: gloves - seeking sources I'm looking for Setwear fingerless gloves (the synthetic leather kind) and can't fathom paying $10 shipping for a $22 pair of gloves. I like these because they keep fingertips free for small grasping and I can wash them without them shrinking like leather is prone to do. Do any of you sell them? Would need 2 pair in size large. I've found them for $20 +$3 for shipping but the company is a weight lifting firm I've never heard of and I'd rather keep the money "in the family" so to speak. Kristi ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 22:39:16 -0500 From: "Delbert Hall" Subject: Re: gloves - seeking sources In-Reply-To: References: Sears sells various Machanix Wear (manufacturer of Setwear) gloves, so try there. They are also sold at many auto parts suppliers like Advance and Auto Zone. Tools for Stagcraft used to sell them too. -Delbert On 12/13/06, MissWisc [at] aol.com wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > I'm looking for Setwear fingerless gloves (the synthetic leather kind) and > can't fathom paying $10 shipping for a $22 pair of gloves. I like these > because they keep fingertips free for small grasping and I can wash them without > them shrinking like leather is prone to do. Do any of you sell them? Would need > 2 pair in size large. I've found them for $20 +$3 for shipping but the > company is a weight lifting firm I've never heard of and I'd rather keep the money > "in the family" so to speak. > > Kristi > > -- Delbert L. Hall ETCP Certified Rigger - Theatre 423-773-4255 ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 21:51:08 -0600 From: "Tim Catlett" Subject: Re: gloves - seeking sources In-Reply-To: References:

You could call Mainstage Theatrical in Milwaukee. They usually have some in stock or they can get them for you. www.mainstage.com 129 W. Pittsburgh Ave. 53204 414-278-0878 800-236-0878 > On 12/13/06, MissWisc [at] aol.com wrote: > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > --------------------------------------------------- > > > > I'm looking for Setwear fingerless gloves (the synthetic leather kind) and > > can't fathom paying $10 shipping for a $22 pair of gloves. I like these > > because they keep fingertips free for small grasping and I can wash them without > > them shrinking like leather is prone to do. Do any of you sell them? Would need > > 2 pair in size large. I've found them for $20 +$3 for shipping but the > > company is a weight lifting firm I've never heard of and I'd rather keep the money > > "in the family" so to speak. > > > > Kristi -- Tim Catlett Asst. Technical Director - Shorewood High School Drama Technical Director - Milwaukee Shakespeare Director of Outreach/Membership - ISETSA (International Secondary Education Theatre Health & Safety Association) Cell: 414.975.4424 EMAIL: catlett.lizardsdream [at] gmail.com ------------------------------ From: "ladesigners [at] juno.com" Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 04:05:11 GMT Subject: Re: Brick Formula Message-Id: <20061213.200620.15735.889144 [at] webmail30.lax.untd.com> How about thirty-five million Californians, who are NOT wrong? /s/ Richard _________________________________________ >Are you suggesting that California is not a part of the real world? Uhm, no, but twenty million Californians can't be wrong! (Or, can = they?) Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ ------------------------------ Message-ID: From: "Occy" References:

Subject: Re: Inside Joke Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 20:54:49 -0800 I totally agree, when I was more flexible, and still do, think that golf courses would make better motocross tracks. The only good kind of golf course has a windmill on it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rigger" > --------------------------------------------------- > > thereby proving that golf courses are the work of the Devil. > > -- > Dave Vick > rigger [at] tds.net > > "Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he machine-gunned the survivors > ------------------------------ Message-ID: From: "Occy" References:

Subject: Re: The Deadly Sinking Floor Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 22:49:55 -0800 Chances are that very few if any people still work that the contractor that installed the floor to begin with. Yes call the manufacture and find out what they ( the manufacture ) have to say it may be a simple fix that facilities handle with even a thought about it, and then again then the whole floor goes in the dumpster, with scraps that the scenic shop can use. But you never know until you seek the answers from the manufacture and us. Which campus is this dance floor at? ----- Original Message ----- From: "dk" > --------------------------------------------------- > > I've got two dance studios that now have "soft spots" which is pretty > bad news. > > It's a L'Air sprung floor (tongue and groove plywood with the hard > rubber under-spacers, if that makes sense) covered with a vinyl topping > (Lonseal 101). > I can only guess at the cause, my best guess is that where the corners > of the plywood sheets is the weakest point and either the floor somehow > contracted or a heavy weight was rolled across the floor. These soft > spots are random, there is no pattern - yet somehow I've got to get them > fixed. Naturally our school's Phys Plant is afraid of tampering with the > floor so I can't just dump the problem on them. > > So I turn to this group for advice, once again. > It seems to me that the way to go is to get a circular saw, cut out > squares around the soft spots and put in plugs - using chunks from a new > sheet of ply plus rubber under-spacers topped with vinyl. Maybe buy two > pieces of flooring from L'Air to use for my plugs. > The other choice, I think, is to contact the contractor who installed > the floor (about 8 years ago) and just point and say "fix it." > > I don't know the best way to go, seems to me that small plugs (perhaps > 2' x 2') would not need the tongue and groove connection, just wedge > that sucker in there and cover with some studio flooring. I saved the > ends of the rolls because I am a Prudent Man and figured I might be > patching someday. > > Any advise on direction, speed, costs, best course would be welcome and, > as ever, I thank you all in advance. > > peace, > DK > ------------------------------ Message-ID: From: "Occy" Cc: josh.ratty [at] verizon.net References: Subject: Re: This is a table. Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 23:22:45 -0800 One company that I worked for had a nice yacht, it had 2 93 series V8 diesels in it, and to supply the engines and genies, 2 5,000 gallon diesel tanks. I was traveling that last few days by car and noticed the price of diesel fuel was 309.9 a gallon, and that's not marina price which are normally a dollar plus a gallon more than you would find on land. To fill up it if empty would take a full load of diesel if delivered on land, yes the truck and the trailer. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josh Ratty" > --------------------------------------------------- >> so not only does it save space on your boat, it saves space in your > wallet. > > Simon > > Well the boat does that anyway, but the people who can afford these > boats have amounts of money that boggle the mind. Most boats of this > size require a full time crew, and I can't imagine that being cheap, and > if you think filling the family car at the pump is expensive try one of > these. > > Josh Ratty > > ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #1053 ******************************