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X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.10) with PIPE id 31862852; Fri, 07 Jul 2006 03:01:10 -0700 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on localhost X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.5 required=5.0 tests=ADVANCE_FEE_1,AWL,BAYES_00, NO_RECEIVED,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.1.3 X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2.10 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #869 Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2006 03:00:22 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4 X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #869 1. Re: Parade Sound-"How it went" by Clive Mitchell 2. Being a 50 something by "Michael Powers" 3. Re: Being a 50 something by "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" 4. Source Four Contact Leads by Paul Marsland 5. Re: GFCI outlets - CSI: Miami by dansldme [at] comcast.net 6. Re: Source Four Contact Leads by "Curtis L. Mortimore" 7. More interference? by "Jon Ares" 8. Re: More interference? by "Kurt Cypher" 9. Re: Safety Alert: Porter-Cable Cordless Nailer Poses Puncture Hazard by Jerry Durand 10. Re: More interference? by "Jon Ares" 11. Re: Safety Alert: Porter-Cable Cordless Nailer Poses Puncture Hazard by "Jon Ares" 12. Re: More interference? by "Jim at TheatreWireless.com" 13. Re: GFCI outlets - You're right, I'm wrong. by Jerry Durand 14. Re: More interference? by "Kurt Cypher" 15. Re: More interference? by "Jim at TheatreWireless.com" 16. Re: More interference? by "Jon Ares" 17. Re: Boston Pops Fireworks by Jerry Durand 18. Re: More interference? by SS 19. Re: More interference? by Clive Mitchell 20. Re: GFCI outlets - You're right, I'm wrong. by Clive Mitchell 21. Re: More interference? by "Jon Ares" 22. Re: Source Four Contact Leads by "Bill Nelson" 23. Re: -SPAM- (5.4): Re: More interference? by "Jim at TheatreWireless.com" 24. MacBook or MacBook Pro? by Greg Persinger 25. Re: More interference? by Clive Mitchell 26. Re: More interference? by "Kurt Cypher" 27. Re: MacBook or MacBook Pro? by Herrick Goldman 28. Re: More interference? by "Jerry George" 29. Re: More interference? by "Bill Nelson" 30. Re: -SPAM- (5.4): Re: More interference? by "Bill Nelson" 31. Glitch with cake by "Bill Nelson" 32. Re: More interference? by Clive Mitchell 33. Re: More interference? by "Jon Ares" 34. Re: More interference? by "Jon Ares" 35. Re: More interference? by "chip.a.wood" 36. Re: More interference? by "Jim at TheatreWireless.com" 37. Re: More interference? by "Jon Ares" 38. Re: More interference? by "Jon Ares" 39. Re: Mortgage the dog! by Steve Larson 40. Re: MacBook or MacBook Pro? by "Daniel O'Donnell" 41. Re: Mortgage the dog! by Jim Hyslop 42. FOH Transfer Switches by Kimberly Corbett 43. Re: Mortgage the dog! by "Paul Schreiner" 44. Re: Mortgage the dog! by "chip.a.wood" 45. Re: MacBook or MacBook Pro? by Gion DeFrancesco 46. Re: Mortgage the dog! by Steve Larson 47. Re: Mortgage the dog! by Steve Larson 48. Re: Glitch with cake by Jerry Durand 49. Re: MacBook or MacBook Pro? by John McKernon 50. Rhode Island Night Club update by Cosmo Catalano 51. Re: Rhode Island Night Club update by "RD" 52. Re: Rhode Island Night Club update by "RD" 53. Interference from Color Maker Wireless LED Fixtures? by "Andy Leviss" 54. Re: Rhode Island Night Club update by "RD" 55. Re: Source Four Contact Leads by Dale Farmer 56. Re: Interference from Color Maker Wireless LED Fixtures? by "Jerry George" 57. Re: Source Four Contact Leads by "Jerry George" 58. Re: Randy Ridley / Memphis Moonshine Lighting passes away by "Aaron W. Braun" 59. Re: GFCI outlets - CSI: Miami by Dale Farmer 60. Re: More interference? by Dale Farmer 61. Re: FOH Transfer Switches by Dale Farmer 62. Re: Boston Pops Fireworks by CB 63. Re: Randy Ridley / Memphis Moonshine Lighting passes away by CB 64. Re: Randy Ridley / Memphis Moonshine Lighting passes away by "Jon Ares" 65. fireworks photos by Jerry Durand 66. Re: Randy Ridley / Memphis Moonshine Lighting passes away by Herrick Goldman 67. screen to printer matching - was- Re: Mortgage the dog! by "Idaho Scenic & Rigging" 68. HBD to y'all by CB 69. Electricians Needed by CB 70. Re: MacBook or MacBook Pro? by Dorian Kelly 71. Re: MacBook or MacBook Pro? by Clive Mitchell 72. Re: Rhode Island Night Club update by Charlie Richmond *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-ID: Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 12:26:38 +0100 From: Clive Mitchell Subject: Re: Parade Sound-"How it went" References: In-Reply-To: In message , Jeffrey Mulvey writes >I decided not to connect the generator's ground lug to the chassis of >the truck or trailer. My thoughts were the there was not wiring >outside of the float, the system was entirely self contained. (Had >the generator been powering anything else besides the two racks, I >would have insisted upon it.) Whether I was correct or incorrect in >not doing this, no one was electricuted (which is always a good >thing). ; ) If the generator was not sitting directly on the metal framework of the truck then it would have been possible for a nipped cable to make the truck chassis live with respect to the generator case. That could have resulted in a shock when you touched the generator. It doesn't require anything complex. Just a bit of wire that physically joins the metal chassis of the generator to the metal chassis of the vehicle. You don't need to tap into electrical connections or anything like that. As always a GFI/RCD (or a few) is a must. > >There was fair amount of distrotion. I could not determine the >source. None of the inputs to the mixer were clipping and neither was >the amp. > The generator output would have been made noisy by flashing lamp loads or vibrating connections. These noises would probably have found their way to the amplifier. If you were really pushing the volume that would have introduced distortion too. If the generator was well loaded, then the voltage may have been dropping too low and this could also have prevented the amp from showing clipping even when it was. Particularly if the clip detection was just a fixed signal threshold. >During our sound check, the truck was off and the cd player played >fine. I stopped the cd. Once we hit the road, it did not work. The >display read TOC Error (Table of Contents). I took that to mean the >the CD player was not properly reading the CD. I had our driver turn >the truck off. I turned off the CD Player, turned it back on, and it >played fine. > >However, I lost the cd player in 3 different places along the road. >Each time was only for about 3 seconds. It did not pick up where it >left off, the kids kept singing and were right on track when the cd >player decided to work again. Sounds like sloppy voltage and vibration. MP3 is the way to go. Even an iPod Shuffle can do a modest job when hooked to your sound system. It does look a bit odd when the sound source is swamped by the size of it's connector. Sounds like it went fine though. It'll be even better next time. :) -- Clive Mitchell http://www.bigclive.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <58f67b0f0607060648r3bbfe00et1d55fcedb057ce5c [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 08:48:02 -0500 From: "Michael Powers" Subject: Being a 50 something Bill Sapsis WROTE: << ........This is getting just a little scary. That's the third guy in his mid-50's in this business to die of a heart attack this year that I know about. Is this normal? It seems like a lot to me and, being in my mid 50's, I'd kinda like to get a handle on this.>> I agree, thank goodness I'm past my 50's so now I'm safe! ;-) -- Michael Michael Powers Director of Operations Central Lighting & Equipment 1720 Fuller Rd. Suite 150 West Des Moines Iowa 50265 515-277-4190 877-977-4190 Fax 515-277-2295 515-557-0178 cell michael [at] clelights.com ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" Subject: RE: Being a 50 something Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 09:53:20 -0400 Message-ID: <002c01c6a103$8a509af0$6501a8c0 [at] Dell> In-Reply-To: > I agree, thank goodness I'm past my 50's so now I'm safe! ;-) Well, when all of the 52-year-old kids were expressing health concerns, it made me glad I'm 54.... ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20060706140121.22947.qmail [at] web52211.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 07:01:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Marsland Subject: Source Four Contact Leads In-Reply-To: Hey Lon, You might just try calling ETC and asking them if you can buy the silver contact part, and get the part number, then go through your dealer. My hunch is that it is proprietary (since it goes with their proprietary/licensed lamp). The connection between the contact and the wire is also a not very standard crimp, so you might not have a tool apropriate for the task (at least in ETC's eyes). Maybe that's just the price to pay for a good-looking light. That said, how many might you need to replace in a year? A dozen? maybe two dozen? That's still less money than a decent sized gel order for a show... Paul > Does anyone know of a source for just the contacts > themselves, or any > other economical solution? > > The complete lead and contact unit, which I've used > in the past, is part > # W330-01 in the pre-04 ETC assembly guide. > > Thanks in advance for the help. > > Regards, > Lon > > Lon Butcher > Performance Technician > Western Washington University > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: dansldme [at] comcast.net Subject: Re: GFCI outlets - CSI: Miami Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2006 15:22:24 +0000 Message-Id: <070620061522.24615.44AD2AAF000CF0180000602722068246930A030B049C020E0B [at] comcast.net> >>> >Dale Farmer writes > My faith in GFCIs has lessened recently. Just went through a batch >of GFCIs and about 1/4 of them failed testing. >>> Dale, can you describe how this testing was performed ? thanks, Dan S. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2006 11:28:43 -0400 Subject: Re: Source Four Contact Leads From: "Curtis L. Mortimore" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Lon, Not that I am an expert... I know of no inexpensive source for the leads you seek. It is my understanding that the cute little gold socket is the expensive part. Suggestion: contact your local vendor and negotiate a quantity price, might save you some if you order in bulk. I know my experience isn't everyone's, but... I have never had a socket burn up in a S4 equipped with a retainer wire. When I was repairing rental stock we bought the retainer wire upgrade kits for any cap that didn't have one and replaced them as they inevitably burned up. IIRC there was an upgrade kit available from ETC that included wires, baffle, retainer.... all the pieces you would need to do one cap. I think the price was $25 or $30 each, which isn't cheap, but it solved the problem and prevented it from recurring. HTH, YMMV, Good Luck.... -- Curtis L. Mortimore Technical Director Ball State University Department of Theatre and Dance Muncie, IN 47306 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <001501c6a112$66ccaa10$0600000a [at] BRUTUS> From: "Jon Ares" Subject: More interference? Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 08:39:43 -0700 Reading about CD players cutting in and out.... noisy audio output... other things about interference, made me want to run this anomaly in front of the masses.... On 3 different occasions that I know of, all of my IR remote control devices have ceased to function, for a short time. The last time was just 2 days ago. TV, receiver, and DVD remotes - none of them would function at any distance, including an inch or two from the devices. (The max distance is about 8 feet anyway.) I'd put in fresh batteries, but nothing. I'd try controlling the same device with various multi-purpose remotes (VCR can also do the TV, the receiver can also do VCR, DVD, etc)... nuttin. None of the devices could be powered by any remote. (Power buttons on the device worked fine, though.) Two days ago, this only lasted about 2 minutes before all were instantly working again. The first time this happened, it was about 30 minutes. Anyone heard of such a thing? Is there some sort of atmospheric interference that would affect IR remotes? I swear, there's no lead wall between my couch and my TV.... - Jon Ares www.hevanet.com/acreative ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 11:50:12 -0400 From: "Kurt Cypher" Subject: Re: More interference? In-Reply-To: References: On 7/6/06, Jon Ares wrote: [SNIP] > fine, though.) Two days ago, this only lasted about 2 minutes before all > were instantly working again. The first time this happened, it was about 30 > minutes. > > Anyone heard of such a thing? Is there some sort of atmospheric > interference that would affect IR remotes? I swear, there's no lead wall > between my couch and my TV.... > > - Jon Ares Was sunset (or sunrise, for that matter) happening around the time this occurred? I've noticed that when the setting sun is brightly shining into my living room, some remotes sometimes appear to lose some of their effective range. My guess is that the IR in the bright sunshine overpowers the IR emitters, causing the receivers to not be able to see the IR pulses from the remote. It could just be a coincidance, and I could very well be wrong. Kurt ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2006 08:49:55 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: Safety Alert: Porter-Cable Cordless Nailer Poses Puncture Hazard In-reply-to: Message-id: <7.0.1.0.0.20060706084751.02027e38 [at] interstellar.com> References: At 06:57 PM 7/1/2006, Jim Hyslop wrote: >ummm... that's it?!? A label saying "Don't do that!"??? Am I the only >one thinking that's not really a sufficient remedy? Remember, the alert is from the same people (CPSC) who stage a mannequin leaning over a concussion mortar and use that as proof that companies that sell chemicals should be put out of business. -- Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc. www.interstellar.com 219 Oak Wood Way, Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886 Skype: jerrydurand ------------------------------ Message-ID: <001d01c6a114$fdcee390$0600000a [at] BRUTUS> From: "Jon Ares" References: Subject: Re: More interference? Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 08:58:15 -0700 > Was sunset (or sunrise, for that matter) happening around the time > this occurred? I've noticed that when the setting sun is brightly > shining into my living room, some remotes sometimes appear to lose > some of their effective range. It was nighttime, each time it happened.... but the room is very dimly-lit anyway. So it probably wasn't El Sol.... - Jon Ares www.hevanet.com/acreative ------------------------------ Message-ID: <002301c6a116$0d2886b0$0600000a [at] BRUTUS> From: "Jon Ares" References: Subject: Re: Safety Alert: Porter-Cable Cordless Nailer Poses Puncture Hazard Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 09:05:50 -0700 > Remember, the alert is from the same people (CPSC) who stage a mannequin > leaning over a concussion mortar and use that as proof that companies that > sell chemicals should be put out of business. Similar to the annual event in the US around July 1 - when the fire departments round up the media, and all meet at a large empty parking lot, and take commonly-available fireworks and position a child-sized mannequin with his/her face over device. Or dress the mannequin with loose-fitting clothing and light a sparkler in its hand and watch the child go up in flames. All this in front of the cameras. Of course, in my curmudgeonly old age, I have come to sit on the side of the people that thinks that it's time to ban all the fireworks stands in parking lots, and leave the pretty displays up to the pros. In Oregon, and I'm sure elsewhere, this time every year we suffer dozens of burned down houses (wood shake roofs) and field/forest fires from fireworks. Now, some will say that these are the result of 'illegal' fireworks (available in Washington State, but flying pyro is illegal in Orygun) - but I say ban it all. I'm not as worried about a boy blowing off his hand as I am that that boy will burn down his or his neighbor's house or field. - Jon Ares www.hevanet.com/acreative ------------------------------ From: "Jim at TheatreWireless.com" Subject: RE: More interference? Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 12:11:04 -0400 Message-ID: <002201c6a116$c879dd60$7f9bfea9 [at] p3m866> In-Reply-To: > On 3 different occasions that I know of, all of my IR remote > control devices have ceased to function, for a short time. Jon, Unlike GFCIs, I have quite a bit of personal experience with IR stuff. :) Is there any direct sunlight in the room when the problem arises? It is fairly easy to saturate an IR detector with ambient light. When this happens, it can no longer detect the signal coming from your transmitter. A beam of sun would most certainly do it. In some cases, a lot of sunlight on a large nearby wall could fill the room with enough reflected IR to completely mask the remote control signal. Another possibility is that one of your IR transmitters is stuck on. They usually send a code continuously while a button is held down. If it's a code that your device ignores, you won't be aware of its presence. But signals from other devices will be masked or garbled when trying to send at the same time. If it is one particular IR receiver (your tv, for instance) that intermittently stops working with any transmitter device (remote control), you may have a problem with that receiver's hardware. Since the problem is rare, it is probably not a big clump of dust in the optical path, but you could have a look for something like that. Check solder joints on the detector as well. Jim RC4 Wireless ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2006 09:11:44 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: GFCI outlets - You're right, I'm wrong. In-reply-to: Message-id: <7.0.1.0.0.20060706090519.020256f0 [at] interstellar.com> References: At 07:52 AM 7/3/2006, C. Dopher wrote: >I'm not sure that's right. I've more than once heard of a car >battery stopping a man's heart and have personally welded a >screwdriver to an oil tank with that kind of current - I have to >believe that 12 volts, under the right conditions, can easily kill >you. If you put a 'scope on a car battery and then CRANK the car, the sparking of the DC starter motor (brush type motor) will make some VERY large back EMF spikes. I've normally seen that as what causes the "12V" shocks. We have some very nice 12V AC desk lamps here (that used the solid state 50W "transformers") and the arm of the lamp is two bars, these are the current carrying members. Quite artistically done so you don't notice that the spacers are plastic colored to match the metal. We often pick up these lamps by grabbing across the two bars. The switch is at the lamp socket, so the frame is energized all the time. Never a shock, UL listed. I guess it could be a problem is a bracelet crossed the bars, 50W would give a bit of sparking there. -- Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc. www.interstellar.com 219 Oak Wood Way, Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886 Skype: jerrydurand ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 12:14:27 -0400 From: "Kurt Cypher" Subject: Re: More interference? In-Reply-To: References: On 7/6/06, Jon Ares wrote: > It was nighttime, each time it happened.... but the room is very dimly-lit > anyway. So it probably wasn't El Sol.... > > - Jon Ares Anything in the room that might give out IR, like a PDA or laptop, a heat-generating appliance, lamps, or even a friend/relative with an IR emitter performing experiements to determine your sanity threshold? Kurt ------------------------------ From: "Jim at TheatreWireless.com" Subject: Re: More interference? Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 12:16:57 -0400 Message-ID: <002a01c6a117$9adafb40$7f9bfea9 [at] p3m866> In-Reply-To: > It was nighttime, each time it happened.... but the room is > very dimly-lit anyway. So it probably wasn't El Sol.... Hmmm... Presuming for a moment that the receiver hardware is ok (which it may not be), what other sources of IR might be in the room? How 'bout a camcorder with the night-vision feature turned on? It illuminates the area with a wash of bright IR light... Jim RC4 Wireless ------------------------------ Message-ID: <003301c6a119$101dca80$0600000a [at] BRUTUS> From: "Jon Ares" References: Subject: Re: More interference? Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 09:27:24 -0700 > Presuming for a moment that the receiver hardware is ok (which it may not > be), what other sources of IR might be in the room? > > How 'bout a camcorder with the night-vision feature turned on? It > illuminates the area with a wash of bright IR light... > These are all very interesting thoughts so far, but sadly, probably not the answer. I don't have a camcorder, and though I do have a PDA and laptop, they were in another room, and not on. Nor do I have a roommate/sanity tester messing with another remote. :) I'm not sure about whether the IR receiver hardware is working, but I find it odd that the hardware inside the TV, the VCR, the DVD player, AND the amp/receiver would all be dying. :) They're all different ages, but only the TV would I question - it's the oldest at 14 years this month (manufactured in July '92). The rest are all between 6 months and 3 years. - Jon Ares www.hevanet.com/acreative ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2006 09:33:21 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: Boston Pops Fireworks In-reply-to: Message-id: <7.0.1.0.0.20060706092807.0202ae58 [at] interstellar.com> References: At 04:32 AM 7/5/2006, IAEG [at] aol.com wrote: >quite frankly it seems that every year the sound at the July 4th / Boston >Pops show is less than wonderful, , there always seems to be pops, , >humms, , bad >E Q . . . it's like an annual event, , > >you'd think that they would do it better, , , , At our barge show, I heard from the audience they loved the hearts, cubes, etc., but could barely hear the sound track. I guess poor sound goes with these events. I don't know what the sound track really was since they hear the left channel and the right channel ("Fire 1...Fire 2...") goes to our headphones by radio. There were some people on our channel JUST before the show, but amazingly they got off the channel when the show started and we had good reception for the whole show (about 315 cues). We had someone with a stopwatch and cue sheet with us, just in case we lost the radio. -- Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc. www.interstellar.com 219 Oak Wood Way, Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886 Skype: jerrydurand ------------------------------ Message-ID: <8231e7ea0607060946tbb28942s7807ac28173cdd0d [at] mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 12:46:46 -0400 From: SS Subject: Re: More interference? In-Reply-To: References: > These are all very interesting thoughts so far, but sadly, probably not the > answer. I don't have a camcorder, and though I do have a PDA and laptop, > they were in another room, and not on. Nor do I have a roommate/sanity > tester messing with another remote. :) > > I'm not sure about whether the IR receiver hardware is working, but I find > it odd that the hardware inside the TV, the VCR, the DVD player, AND the > amp/receiver would all be dying. :) They're all different ages, but only > the TV would I question - it's the oldest at 14 years this month > (manufactured in July '92). The rest are all between 6 months and 3 years. Do you believe in ghosts? :) -SS TTS-EKU "You can go anywhere you want if you look serious and carry a clipboard." ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 17:51:37 +0100 From: Clive Mitchell Subject: Re: More interference? References: In-Reply-To: In message , Jon Ares writes >On 3 different occasions that I know of, all of my IR remote control >devices have ceased to function, for a short time. The last time was >just 2 days ago. TV, receiver, and DVD remotes - none of them would >function at any distance, including an inch or two from the devices. >(The max distance is about 8 feet anyway.) I'd put in fresh batteries, >nothing. I'd try controlling the same device with various >multi-purpose remotes (VCR can also do the TV, the receiver can also do >VCR, DVD, etc)... nuttin. None of the devices could be powered by any >remote. (Power buttons on the device worked fine, though.) Two days >ago, this only lasted about 2 minutes before all were instantly working >again. The first time this happened, it was about 30 minutes. > >Anyone heard of such a thing? Is there some sort of atmospheric >interference that would affect IR remotes? I swear, there's no lead >wall between my couch and my TV.... Look for a light fitting with an electronic ballast in the vicinity. This could even be a compact fluorescent lamp in an adjacent table light. As soon as you turned it off or pointed it away the remotes started working again. The high frequency modulated light from the lamp swamps the signal. -- Clive Mitchell http://www.bigclive.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 17:46:20 +0100 From: Clive Mitchell Subject: Re: GFCI outlets - You're right, I'm wrong. References: In-Reply-To: In message , Jerry Durand writes >We have some very nice 12V AC desk lamps here (that used the solid >state 50W "transformers") and the arm of the lamp is two bars, these >are the current carrying members. Quite artistically done so you don't >notice that the spacers are plastic colored to match the metal. We >often pick up these lamps by grabbing across the two bars. The switch >is at the lamp socket, so the frame is energized all the time. Never a >shock, UL listed. > The smooth AC won't give much of a tingle. The high frequency electronic supply tend to cause current to flow over the surface Tesla style. >I guess it could be a problem is a bracelet crossed the bars, 50W would >give a bit of sparking there. Sure does, but beware of cheap lights with soldered fuses! -- Clive Mitchell http://www.bigclive.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <000901c6a11e$07c32c40$0600000a [at] BRUTUS> From: "Jon Ares" References: Subject: Re: More interference? Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 10:02:57 -0700 > Look for a light fitting with an electronic ballast in the vicinity. This > could even be a compact fluorescent lamp in an adjacent table light. As > soon as you turned it off or pointed it away the remotes started working > again. Hmm... I only own one CFL (don't get me going on how lousy those are) - but it's down the hall, and it is hardly ever on (again, related to the crappy output). BUT... you did get me thinking of other devices... on at least 2 of the 3 times no IR devices worked (possibly all three times), I did have low voltage lighting on. I have a transformer that converts the 120V 60Hz to 12V for 3 low voltage overhead accent lights... might there be a connection? I certainly would have had them on to trouble-shoot, and I know for a fact I had them on before the weirdness the other night... - Jon Ares www.hevanet.com/acreative ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1618.205.215.254.89.1152206040.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 10:14:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Source Four Contact Leads From: "Bill Nelson" > we bought the retainer wire upgrade kits for any cap that didn't have one > and replaced them as they inevitably burned up. IIRC there was an upgrade > kit available from ETC that included wires, baffle, retainer.... all the > pieces you would need to do one cap. I think the price was $25 or $30 > each, which isn't cheap, but it solved the problem and prevented it from > recurring. The upgrade kit is still available. There is a downloadable pdf file on the ETC site containing directions on how to perform the upgrade. Bill ------------------------------ From: "Jim at TheatreWireless.com" Subject: RE: -SPAM- (5.4): Re: More interference? Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 13:27:35 -0400 Message-ID: <003101c6a121$78991990$7f9bfea9 [at] p3m866> In-Reply-To: > IR devices worked (possibly all three times), I did have low > voltage lighting on. I have a transformer that converts the > 120V 60Hz to 12V for 3 low voltage overhead accent lights... > might there be a connection? Halogen lamps output a lot of IR. I can saturate a receiver quite easily with an MR16. Jim RC4 Wireless ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2006 12:39:52 -0500 Subject: MacBook or MacBook Pro? From: Greg Persinger Message-ID: Greetings, For those of you that have bought the MacBook have you been disappointed with it=B9s performance? Have you wished you spent more money and purchased a MacBook Pro? I am currently debating which machine to purchase. I mainly use Microsoft Office, Adobe Acrobat, and Vectorworks 12 Spotlight. In VW I primarily draw in 2D plan view. It is very rare for me to use 3D. I am currently using an ancient PB G3 400MHz laptop when I travel and it is very slow. Most of my time is spent in my office on my desktop machine, which needs to be upgraded soon as well, so I would like to save my money to invest in the new office machine. However I don=B9t want to invest in a MacBook and regret not spending the extra money for a MacBook Pro if that would serve me better. Any thoughts? Thanks. Greg Persinger ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 18:39:54 +0100 From: Clive Mitchell Subject: Re: More interference? References: In-Reply-To: In message , Jon Ares writes >Hmm... I only own one CFL (don't get me going on how lousy those are) - >but it's down the hall, and it is hardly ever on (again, related to the >crappy output). BUT... you did get me thinking of other devices... on >at least 2 of the 3 times no IR devices worked (possibly all three >times), I did have low voltage lighting on. I have a transformer that >converts the 120V 60Hz to 12V for 3 low voltage overhead accent >lights... might there be a connection? I certainly would have had them >on to trouble-shoot, and I know for a fact I had them on before the >weirdness the other night... Hmm. I wonder if there was another infra red transmitter firing continuously. Best way to find out would be to "sweep" the room in the dark with a cheap digital camera or webcam. Some of them pick up infra red well. -- Clive Mitchell http://www.bigclive.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 13:46:22 -0400 From: "Kurt Cypher" Subject: Re: More interference? In-Reply-To: References: On 7/6/06, Clive Mitchell wrote: > Hmm. I wonder if there was another infra red transmitter firing > continuously. Best way to find out would be to "sweep" the room in the > dark with a cheap digital camera or webcam. Some of them pick up infra > red well. > > -- > Clive Mitchell A Sony video camera with "night shot" turned on works well for seeing IR sources, assuming you have access to one. Kurt ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2006 13:54:01 -0400 Subject: Re: MacBook or MacBook Pro? From: Herrick Goldman Message-ID: In-Reply-To: It's my personal PC buying philosophy to save up and Always buy the best an= d fastest available. (Assuming you know it's a good product and Mac is) If you buy the mid to low end, then you are already behind the curve. At least the high end will be the best available for at least 8 months. I'm sure a Macbook will be just perfect for what you want to do. But then again my G3 Wall Street powerbook was too. And that was running OS7. Leopard will be out soon and it's supposed to be amazingly fast. Whatever you buy, upgrade the RAM as much as you can afford to. YMMV -H On 7/6/06 1:39 PM, "Greg Persinger" wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- >=20 > Greetings, >=20 > For those of you that have bought the MacBook have you been disappointed > with it=B9s performance? Have you wished you spent more money and purchased= a > MacBook Pro? >=20 >=20 --=20 Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com 917-797-3624 "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS ------------------------------ From: "Jerry George" Subject: RE: More interference? Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 14:15:29 -0400 Message-ID: <001001c6a128$2ce8b5d0$0200a8c0 [at] Chesty> In-Reply-To: OK, it'd be a really wild coincidence, but what about the batteries? Not likely, I admit, but a slim possibility. Jerry George -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Jon = Ares Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 12:27 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: More interference? For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- > Presuming for a moment that the receiver hardware is ok (which it may=20 > not be), what other sources of IR might be in the room? > > How 'bout a camcorder with the night-vision feature turned on? It=20 > illuminates the area with a wash of bright IR light... > These are all very interesting thoughts so far, but sadly, probably not = the=20 answer. I don't have a camcorder, and though I do have a PDA and = laptop,=20 they were in another room, and not on. Nor do I have a roommate/sanity=20 tester messing with another remote. :) I'm not sure about whether the IR receiver hardware is working, but I = find=20 it odd that the hardware inside the TV, the VCR, the DVD player, AND the = amp/receiver would all be dying. :) They're all different ages, but = only=20 the TV would I question - it's the oldest at 14 years this month=20 (manufactured in July '92). The rest are all between 6 months and 3 = years. - Jon Ares www.hevanet.com/acreative=20 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1821.205.215.254.89.1152210078.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 11:21:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: More interference? From: "Bill Nelson" > I'm not sure about whether the IR receiver hardware is working, but I find > it odd that the hardware inside the TV, the VCR, the DVD player, AND the > amp/receiver would all be dying. :) They're all different ages, but only > the TV would I question - it's the oldest at 14 years this month > (manufactured in July '92). The rest are all between 6 months and 3 > years. I had already eliminated your devices, since the problem occurred with all of them at once. I had also eliminated sunlight, as putting a remote a few inches from the sensor should block enough light that the remote would work. The problem is almost certainly due to swamping of the sensors, somehow. Since it is unlikely to be IR, I can only think of RF as the possible cause. Did you have a cell phone in the room at the times the problem occurred? If so, do you normally have the cell phone present. The phone should not be able to generate enough RF to be a problem, but it would be nice to eliminate that possibility. Do you have remote sensors elsewhere, for remote control of the DVD player, VCR or amp? How about an RF remote? Bill ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1834.205.215.254.89.1152210804.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 11:33:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: -SPAM- (5.4): Re: More interference? From: "Bill Nelson" > Halogen lamps output a lot of IR. I can saturate a receiver quite easily > with an MR16. Halogen lamps are more efficient that regular incandescent, so should have less IR output for the same wattage, not more. Bill ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1879.205.215.254.89.1152212749.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 12:05:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Glitch with cake From: "Bill Nelson" My local finale, which I described briefly before, went well except for one problem. I had two identical cakes on one cue, using ematches to ignite both cakes at once. I attached the two chaining leaders together, so that if one cake ignited, the chained connection should ignite the other cake, starting at the end. Not what I would want, but better than not having a cake ignite. Well, it happened anyway. One cake lit, the other didn't. But when the one box finished, there was no transfer to the other box. Upon examination after the show, the ematch had fired on the unlit cake. The pipe on the other box apparently never ignited. I also had what appeared to be a similar problem on the 4 simultaneous cakes, but the chained connection worked and fired the one non-firing cake as soon as one of the others completed. Again, the ematch had fired. If anyone is wondering how I can tell the ematche fired: If it fires, the bridge wire is vaporized. If just ignited by piped match, the bridgewire will still be intact. There was also a cake of 36 that had two sells with salutes that did not go. They were in separate places in the inner part of the cake. Did anyone else who did shows have similar problems with their cakes? Bill ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 20:16:31 +0100 From: Clive Mitchell Subject: Re: More interference? References: In-Reply-To: In message , Kurt Cypher writes >A Sony video camera with "night shot" turned on works well for seeing >IR sources, assuming you have access to one. There isn't any possibility someone else could have been using a remote jammer for amusement? These are little black boxes that continually emit modulated infra red light to jam receivers. Sometimes used to discourage people from changing TV channels. :) -- Clive Mitchell http://www.bigclive.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <000d01c6a131$3a8e94d0$0600000a [at] BRUTUS> From: "Jon Ares" References: Subject: Re: More interference? Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 12:20:23 -0700 > OK, it'd be a really wild coincidence, but what about the batteries? Not > likely, I admit, but a slim possibility. That was always the first try - replacing batts with fresh. No difference. But I am wondering about the IR from my halogen MR16s - even though they don't aim towards the IR receivers, I wonder if they could be to blame. (But interestingly they've been on a lot over the last 5 years, without any IR flakieness... with the exception of the 3 times I know of....) - Jon Ares www.hevanet.com/acreative ------------------------------ Message-ID: <001301c6a131$c2b9be20$0600000a [at] BRUTUS> From: "Jon Ares" References: Subject: Re: More interference? Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 12:24:11 -0700 > The problem is almost certainly due to swamping of the sensors, somehow. > Since it is unlikely to be IR, I can only think of RF as the possible > cause. Did you have a cell phone in the room at the times the problem > occurred? If so, do you normally have the cell phone present. The phone > should not be able to generate enough RF to be a problem, but it would be > nice to eliminate that possibility. I don't have any IR repeaters... I do have a cell phone but it's almost always off when I'm at home (I'm one of those types that gets the cell bill and see I used a whopping 6 minutes this month)... I do have a 5.8Ghz cordless phone and base nearby.... and it's about 6 months old... before that I had a 900Mhz phone in the same location.... clues? - Jon Ares www.hevanet.com/acreative ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "chip.a.wood" Subject: RE: More interference? Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 12:25:26 -0700 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Ok, I will get you going, why don't you like CFLs? I have them all over my house, work great, much more lumens/watt, and generate a LOT less heat (important in AZ). A little pricy but evens out over the longer lifetime and lower electric bills. I run a lot of audio and never traced any interference to them. What's not to like? Chip > Subject: Re: More interference? > In message , Jon Ares > writes > >Hmm... I only own one CFL (don't get me going on how lousy those are) - > >but it's down the hall, and it is hardly ever on (again, related to the > >crappy output). ------------------------------ From: "Jim at TheatreWireless.com" Subject: Re: More interference? Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 15:28:39 -0400 Message-ID: <003d01c6a132$62484ce0$7f9bfea9 [at] p3m866> In-Reply-To: > > Halogen lamps output a lot of IR. I can saturate a receiver quite > > easily with an MR16. > > Halogen lamps are more efficient that regular incandescent, > so should have less IR output for the same wattage, not more. Most accent lights I've seen use halogen bulbs, and they are often more focussed than incandescent lamps, with built-in reflectors. Of course, regular incandescent lamps also radiate plenty of IR. Much more interesting than the wider spectrum of a halogen lamp is *why* it is wider. It "rebuilds" it's filament while running, recycling evaporated tungsten rather than depositing it on the inside of the glass envelope. This allows a much higher current to be passed through the filament while still providing a useful life; the result is a sustainable brighter and whiter light. You can get a similar light with over-voltage to an incandescent -- but not for long. Jim RC4 Wireless ------------------------------ Message-ID: <002301c6a135$44ca6010$0600000a [at] BRUTUS> From: "Jon Ares" Cc: chip.wood [at] ieee.org References: Subject: Re: More interference? Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 12:49:18 -0700 > > Ok, I will get you going, why don't you like CFLs? I have them all over > my > house, work great, much more lumens/watt, and generate a LOT less heat > (important in AZ). A little pricy but evens out over the longer lifetime > and lower electric bills. I run a lot of audio and never traced any > interference to them. What's not to like? Basically, output and color temperature. I don't know where you get your CFLs, but mine don't have the lumen output the manufacturer says it does. And they must be on crack when they say this Xwatt CFL is the equivalent of a Ywatt incandescent. Just ain't so. I don't remember the results precisely, and as I'm not home right now to check, but I had done a footcandle measurement of the (whatever) watt CFL in my hall, that was allegedly equal to the output of the 40W bulb it replaced.... the CFL was painfully low (at 3') compared to the 40W lamp. I also tried other lamps elsewhere (equiv. to 60W and the like) and just never liked the output/falloff, nor the color temp. - Jon Ares www.hevanet.com/acreative ------------------------------ Message-ID: <002901c6a135$f0597150$0600000a [at] BRUTUS> From: "Jon Ares" References: Subject: Re: More interference? Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 12:54:06 -0700 > Most accent lights I've seen use halogen bulbs, and they are often more > focussed than incandescent lamps, with built-in reflectors. Of course, > regular incandescent lamps also radiate plenty of IR. Doesn't the MR16 shoot some of its IR out the 'back' - the reflector? Mine have that 'pinky' glow coming off the reflectors (the lamps are exposed on all sides - sort of like the lamps shown in the following pic - http://tinyurl.com/p9a6n - so are they shooting IR all over the place? - Jon Ares www.hevanet.com/acreative ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2006 15:57:17 -0400 Subject: Re: Mortgage the dog! From: Steve Larson Message-ID: In-Reply-To: I concur. Always buy the most you can afford. Heck, mortgage the dog to get a little extra. I'm stuck with an iMac and a G4 in my office at work. I inherited the G4 when the financial director converted to PC for ticketing reasons. I maxed the ram and replaced the 400MHz processor with a 1.3 Gb processor. Now it screams. Now I seldom wait on anything including large Photoshop jobs. Replaced the old Apple monitor with a 19" Acer. Incredible contrast and color. In fact I had to adjust it so that what was on the screen matched what my Epson 1280 produced. Go for it! Steve > From: Herrick Goldman > Reply-To: "Stagecraft" > Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2006 13:54:01 -0400 > To: "Stagecraft" > Subject: Re: MacBook or MacBook Pro? >=20 > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- >=20 > It's my personal PC buying philosophy to save up and Always buy the best = and > fastest available. (Assuming you know it's a good product and Mac is) >=20 > If you buy the mid to low end, then you are already behind the curve. At > least the high end will be the best available for at least 8 months. I'm > sure a Macbook will be just perfect for what you want to do. But then aga= in > my G3 Wall Street powerbook was too. And that was running OS7. >=20 > Leopard will be out soon and it's supposed to be amazingly fast. >=20 > Whatever you buy, upgrade the RAM as much as you can afford to. >=20 > YMMV >=20 > -H >=20 > On 7/6/06 1:39 PM, "Greg Persinger" wrote: >=20 >> For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see >> --------------------------------------------------- >>=20 >> Greetings, >>=20 >> For those of you that have bought the MacBook have you been disappointed >> with it=B9s performance? Have you wished you spent more money and purchase= d a >> MacBook Pro? >=20 >>=20 >>=20 >=20 > --=20 > Herrick Goldman > Lighting Designer, NYC > www.HGLightingDesign.com > 917-797-3624 > "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and i= n > light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS >=20 >=20 ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: From: "Daniel O'Donnell" Subject: Re: MacBook or MacBook Pro? Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 16:00:43 -0400 I would suggest the MacBook Pro because you can have multiple monitors With the price of the bigger flat screens finally coming down it's =20 great to have all the pallets on the laptop screen and the drawing on =20= the bigger screen. The MacBook only allows you to mirror the screen. I do my drafting (Light plots mainly) on a 1.5 GHz Powerbook. The =20 new ones would be real nice. Though, do check and see if VW works =20 with the Intel Macs. On Jul 6, 2006, at 1:39 PM, Greg Persinger wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see stagecraft.theprices.net/> > --------------------------------------------------- > > Greetings, > > For those of you that have bought the MacBook have you been =20 > disappointed > with it=B9s performance? Have you wished you spent more money and =20 > purchased a > MacBook Pro? > > I am currently debating which machine to purchase. I mainly use =20 > Microsoft > Office, Adobe Acrobat, and Vectorworks 12 Spotlight. --- Daniel R. O'Donnell dan [at] mystyk.com http://www.mystyk.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <44AD6FEF.4060503 [at] dreampossible.ca> Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2006 16:17:51 -0400 From: Jim Hyslop Organization: Dreampossible Inc. Subject: Re: Mortgage the dog! References: In-Reply-To: Steve Larson wrote: > I concur. Always buy the most you can afford. And then DO NOT look at computer prices for at least a year. -- Jim Hyslop ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20060706202110.86719.qmail [at] web52408.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 13:21:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Kimberly Corbett Reply-To: corbettk2 [at] asme.org Subject: FOH Transfer Switches In-Reply-To: Hello List, Can anybody point me to a good source for photographs or illustrations of front-of-house transfer panels? For bonus points, does any opinions (that's a dangerous question here!) on how often these are actually used? Much appreciated, Kimberly Corbett Theatre Consultant __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Mortgage the dog! Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 16:25:01 -0400 Message-ID: <6E497ADB607656479C24E6D7BF6B505A042A9CD6 [at] exchange.rmwc.edu> In-Reply-To: From: "Paul Schreiner" > I concur. Always buy the most you can afford. Heck,=20 > mortgage the dog to get a little extra. =20 Know of any companies that'd actually do that? I've got two dogs and five cats that could then become a source of income... ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "chip.a.wood" Subject: RE: Mortgage the dog! Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 14:14:03 -0700 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: How did you do that, by eye, or some chroma matcher? I have never been able to get the same color and contrast from the monitor and printer. Balance for one color, the others are off, balance for brightness, all the colors are off. What's the technique? Chip > -----Original Message----- > From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net]On Behalf Of Steve > Larson > Replaced the old Apple monitor with > a 19" Acer. Incredible contrast and color. In fact I had > to adjust it so that what was on the screen matched what my > Epson 1280 produced. ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 17:15:49 -0400 From: Gion DeFrancesco Subject: Re: MacBook or MacBook Pro? >I do my drafting (Light plots mainly) on a 1.5 GHz Powerbook. The >new ones would be real nice. Though, do check and see if VW works >with the Intel Macs. I'm only running VW 11.5 but its working fine on my MacBook Pro (running under Rosetta). I believe Nemetschek promises next release to be Universal. Get the Pro. -- +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Gion DeFrancesco Associate Professor of Theatre/Scene Designer MUT Production Manager Miami University 247C Center for Performing Arts Oxford, OH 45056 513.529.8318 Portfolio on the web at http://www.users.muohio.edu/defranga ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "A cheese may disappoint. It may be dull, it may be naive, it may be oversophisticated. Yet it remains, cheese, milk's leap toward immortality." Clifton Fadiman ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2006 17:21:15 -0400 Subject: Re: Mortgage the dog! From: Steve Larson Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Actually trial and error. My monitor was showing one brightness, my printer was printing another. I adjusted the monitor till it produced the print I was seeing on my iMac which was being reproduced in the print exactly like I saw it on the iMac monitor. It (the Acer monitor) was about 10% different. It probably took an hour of fiddling and several sheets of paper. Can't remember all the details, sorry. Steve > From: "chip.a.wood" > Reply-To: "Stagecraft" > Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 14:14:03 -0700 > To: "Stagecraft" > Subject: Re: Mortgage the dog! > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > How did you do that, by eye, or some chroma matcher? I have never been able > to get the same color and contrast from the monitor and printer. Balance > for one color, the others are off, balance for brightness, all the colors > are off. What's the technique? > > Chip > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net]On Behalf Of Steve >> Larson > >> Replaced the old Apple monitor with >> a 19" Acer. Incredible contrast and color. In fact I had >> to adjust it so that what was on the screen matched what my >> Epson 1280 produced. > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2006 17:22:06 -0400 Subject: Re: Mortgage the dog! From: Steve Larson Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Actually don't look at another computer for at least a year. Steve > From: Jim Hyslop > Organization: Dreampossible Inc. > Reply-To: "Stagecraft" > Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2006 16:17:51 -0400 > To: "Stagecraft" > Subject: Re: Mortgage the dog! > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Steve Larson wrote: >> I concur. Always buy the most you can afford. > > And then DO NOT look at computer prices for at least a year. > > -- > Jim Hyslop > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2006 14:25:02 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: Glitch with cake In-reply-to: Message-id: <7.0.1.0.0.20060706142258.01ffd158 [at] interstellar.com> References: At 12:05 PM 7/6/2006, Bill Nelson wrote: >Did anyone else who did shows have similar problems with their cakes? This year ALL the cakes only had one match on them (and only a couple of inches long). We normally light from both ends on 3" cakes both to speed them up and to make sure they light. We punched a hole over the last tube and stuffed a foot or so of quick match down there. Figured all that fire should light it off. Of course, someone bumped the camera during the finale so I can't see the full run of the cakes, but they did all go off. -- Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc. www.interstellar.com 219 Oak Wood Way, Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886 Skype: jerrydurand ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2006 18:28:34 -0400 Subject: Re: MacBook or MacBook Pro? From: John McKernon Message-ID: In-Reply-To: > I'm only running VW 11.5 but its working fine on my MacBook Pro > (running under Rosetta). I believe Nemetschek promises next release > to be Universal. Just be aware that VW 12 does not run happily under Rosetta at this time, more info is available on Nemetschek's web site. - John ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2006 18:34:26 -0400 From: Cosmo Catalano Subject: Rhode Island Night Club update Message-id: Monona Rossol had an interesting article in the July '06 USA829 (Volume 7, No 7, pg 5) newsletter regarding her testimony at the trial. I think she made some excellent points regarding not only that incident, but how we "bring people up" in the business. If someone would provide some server space, I'll be glad to send it along... Cosmo ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "RD" Subject: RE: Rhode Island Night Club update Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 17:02:19 -0600 Message-ID: <00f401c6a150$3c173f90$c083c447 [at] doom1> In-Reply-To: I would be pleased to do that, and receive her comments. Doom -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Cosmo Catalano Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 4:34 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Rhode Island Night Club update For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Monona Rossol had an interesting article in the July '06 USA829 (Volume 7, No 7, pg 5) newsletter regarding her testimony at the trial. I think she made some excellent points regarding not only that incident, but how we "bring people up" in the business. If someone would provide some server space, I'll be glad to send it along... Cosmo ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "RD" Subject: RE: Rhode Island Night Club update Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 17:03:28 -0600 Message-ID: <00fd01c6a150$653a4110$c083c447 [at] doom1> In-Reply-To: What is the USA829? Doom -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Cosmo Catalano Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 4:34 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Rhode Island Night Club update For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Monona Rossol had an interesting article in the July '06 USA829 (Volume 7, No 7, pg 5) newsletter regarding her testimony at the trial. I think she made some excellent points regarding not only that incident, but how we "bring people up" in the business. If someone would provide some server space, I'll be glad to send it along... Cosmo ------------------------------ From: "Andy Leviss" Cc: theatre-sound [at] listserv.aol.com Subject: Interference from Color Maker Wireless LED Fixtures? Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 19:54:55 -0400 Organization: Duck's Echo Sound Message-ID: <007701c6a157$9521e110$2802a8c0 [at] Andy> Hey guys, First, sorry for the cross-post, I try to avoid it, but since I may get the feedback I need from lighting types as well as fellow sound guys, I hope you'll forgive! That said, does anybody have any experience with the wirelessly controlled LED fixtures from Color Maker (http://www.jmelectronics-online.com)? We had an event last weekend where our wireless mic rig, which had been clean and happy for five days on site leading up to the event in a relatively clean RF environment, suddenly started getting lots of hits of static during the event itself, across all four active channels of wireless, both handhelds and beltpacks (ie, not a connector issue on the beltpack, our first suspicion). In investigating, we found out that the lighting crew had chosen the time we started getting those hits to first fire up their wireless Color Maker rig. We're trying to determine if the hits may have come from that rig, to save future problems both for us and lighting companies we work with who may use that gear. Does anybody have any experience with these particular units who can shed some light on this? I can't find ANY specs on the rf setup for the Color Maker products on their website, which doesn't exactly leave me feeling reassured, LOL. I believe the LX crew chief said the CM stuff was somewhere in the 900 mHz range, although that's secondhand info that he relayed through somebody else. We were running Sennheisers in the 640-ish mHz range. Thanks in advance for any light anybody can shed on this, Andy ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "RD" Subject: RE: Rhode Island Night Club update Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 19:14:42 -0600 Message-ID: <001901c6a162$ba75b120$c083c447 [at] doom1> In-Reply-To: Very interested in getting her point of view. Doom -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Cosmo Catalano Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 4:34 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Rhode Island Night Club update For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Monona Rossol had an interesting article in the July '06 USA829 (Volume 7, No 7, pg 5) newsletter regarding her testimony at the trial. I think she made some excellent points regarding not only that incident, but how we "bring people up" in the business. If someone would provide some server space, I'll be glad to send it along... Cosmo ------------------------------ Message-ID: <44ADB992.3070009 [at] cybercom.net> Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2006 21:32:02 -0400 From: Dale Farmer Organization: I'm working on that.... Subject: Re: Source Four Contact Leads References: In-Reply-To: Paul Marsland wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Hey Lon, > > You might just try calling ETC and asking them if you > can buy the silver contact part, and get the part > number, then go through your dealer. > > My hunch is that it is proprietary (since it goes with > their proprietary/licensed lamp). The connection > between the contact and the wire is also a not very > standard crimp, so you might not have a tool > apropriate for the task (at least in ETC's eyes). > > Maybe that's just the price to pay for a good-looking > light. That said, how many might you need to replace > in a year? A dozen? maybe two dozen? That's still > less money than a decent sized gel order for a show... > > Paul > >> Does anyone know of a source for just the contacts >> themselves, or any >> other economical solution? >> >> The complete lead and contact unit, which I've used >> in the past, is part >> # W330-01 in the pre-04 ETC assembly guide. >> >> Thanks in advance for the help. >> >> Regards, >> Lon We just buy them premade from ETC. Buy them by the bag, they don't go stale, and source 4s are going to be around for a while. Also, when you replace a burned contact, throw that bulb away too. The bulb pin has gotten burned as well, and if you put it back into the repaired socket, it will just burn the new socket contacts. Burned electrical contacts are contagious, they spread the burns from the bad ones to every new contact they make. --Dale ------------------------------ From: "Jerry George" Subject: RE: Interference from Color Maker Wireless LED Fixtures? Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 21:28:12 -0400 Message-ID: <000201c6a164$9d222520$0200a8c0 [at] Chesty> In-Reply-To: Howdy! The DL-50, DC-120 and the DCR-54 fixtures all appear to run at 916 mhz. = The cut sheets are at http://www.jmelectronics-online.com/Pdf/DL50_Cut.pdf, http://www.jmelectronics-online.com/Pdf/DCR120_Cut.pdf, and http://www.jmelectronics-online.com/Pdf/DCR-54_Cut.pdf. =20 Cheers, Jerry -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Andy = Leviss Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 7:55 PM To: Stagecraft Cc: theatre-sound [at] listserv.aol.com Subject: Interference from Color Maker Wireless LED Fixtures? For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Hey guys, First, sorry for the cross-post, I try to avoid it, but since I may get = the feedback I need from lighting types as well as fellow sound guys, I hope you'll forgive! That said, does anybody have any experience with the wirelessly = controlled LED fixtures from Color Maker (http://www.jmelectronics-online.com)? We = had an event last weekend where our wireless mic rig, which had been clean = and happy for five days on site leading up to the event in a relatively = clean RF environment, suddenly started getting lots of hits of static during the event itself, across all four active channels of wireless, both = handhelds and beltpacks (ie, not a connector issue on the beltpack, our first suspicion).=20 In investigating, we found out that the lighting crew had chosen the = time we started getting those hits to first fire up their wireless Color Maker = rig. We're trying to determine if the hits may have come from that rig, to = save future problems both for us and lighting companies we work with who may = use that gear. Does anybody have any experience with these particular units = who can shed some light on this? I can't find ANY specs on the rf setup for = the Color Maker products on their website, which doesn't exactly leave me feeling reassured, LOL. I believe the LX crew chief said the CM stuff = was somewhere in the 900 mHz range, although that's secondhand info that he relayed through somebody else. We were running Sennheisers in the = 640-ish mHz range. Thanks in advance for any light anybody can shed on this, Andy ------------------------------ From: "Jerry George" Subject: RE: Source Four Contact Leads Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 21:30:38 -0400 Message-ID: <000301c6a164$f6e54560$0200a8c0 [at] Chesty> In-Reply-To: You mean the lamp? Jerry -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of Dale = Farmer Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 9:32 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: Source Four Contact Leads We just buy them premade from ETC. Buy them by the bag, they don't=20 go stale, and source 4s are going to be around for a while. Also, when = you replace a burned contact, throw that bulb away too. The bulb pin has = gotten burned as well, and if you put it back into the repaired socket,=20 it will just burn the new socket contacts. Burned electrical contacts=20 are contagious, they spread the burns from the bad ones to every new=20 contact they make. --Dale ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Aaron W. Braun" Subject: RE: Randy Ridley / Memphis Moonshine Lighting passes away Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 20:49:00 -0500 Message-ID: <002201c6a167$84de1c50$6501a8c0 [at] XP2600> In-Reply-To: I am deeply saddened to hear of Randy's passing. For many years, I had the opportunity to work on shows where he supplied the gear. He took exceptional pride in the maintenance of his equipment as well as the customer support he offered to his clients. Both he and his wife Cindy were a joy to work with. His family was extremely important to him. I remember going to his new building in the 90's and being impressed that he had dedicated a room in his offices to be a playroom for his daughter. (I can't believe she is 14 already!) For those of you who want to know a little more about him, an article about his life and recent passing can be found at: http://www.commercialappeal.com/mca/local/article/0,2845,MCA_25340_4817136,0 0.html Aaron Braun Ardee Design Group, LLC Nashville, TN ------------------------------ Message-ID: <44ADC666.9050004 [at] cybercom.net> Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2006 22:26:46 -0400 From: Dale Farmer Organization: I'm working on that.... Subject: Re: GFCI outlets - CSI: Miami References: In-Reply-To: dansldme [at] comcast.net wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > >> Dale Farmer writes >> My faith in GFCIs has lessened recently. Just went through a batch >> of GFCIs and about 1/4 of them failed testing. > > Dale, can you describe how this testing was performed ? > > thanks, > > Dan S. > > > First energize it and see if the thing was passing current by plugging in one of those three neon bulb testers into it. Press the built in test button on the outlet to see if it tripped. Reset the outlet and then press the gfci test button on the three neon bulb tester to see if the thing tripped out. These GFCIs were pretty wretched looking, having been in rental stock that we had bought from another company and been used at a lot of outdoor gigs. Many of them had been damaged by ripping off the outlet covers, for instance, and evidence of being rained on or worse. There were some that I was sure would fail based on their appearance, but they worked. --Dale ------------------------------ Message-ID: <44ADC7A1.2020402 [at] cybercom.net> Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2006 22:32:01 -0400 From: Dale Farmer Organization: I'm working on that.... Subject: Re: More interference? References: In-Reply-To: Jon Ares wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > >> Presuming for a moment that the receiver hardware is ok (which it may not >> be), what other sources of IR might be in the room? >> >> How 'bout a camcorder with the night-vision feature turned on? It >> illuminates the area with a wash of bright IR light... >> > > > These are all very interesting thoughts so far, but sadly, probably not > the answer. I don't have a camcorder, and though I do have a PDA and > laptop, they were in another room, and not on. Nor do I have a > roommate/sanity tester messing with another remote. :) > > I'm not sure about whether the IR receiver hardware is working, but I > find it odd that the hardware inside the TV, the VCR, the DVD player, > AND the amp/receiver would all be dying. :) They're all different > ages, but only the TV would I question - it's the oldest at 14 years > this month (manufactured in July '92). The rest are all between 6 > months and 3 years. > > - Jon Ares > www.hevanet.com/acreative > > > Some of the halide or compact flouresent bulbs interfere with IR remote controls. I only see it at certain facilities where I'm a visitor, so I've not been able to do testing, but when I take a pad of paper and put the IR receiver in the shadow of it, they work fine. --Dale ------------------------------ Message-ID: <44ADC9B3.8040902 [at] cybercom.net> Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2006 22:40:51 -0400 From: Dale Farmer Organization: I'm working on that.... Subject: Re: FOH Transfer Switches References: In-Reply-To: Kimberly Corbett wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Hello List, > > Can anybody point me to a good source for photographs > or illustrations of front-of-house transfer panels? > > For bonus points, does any opinions (that's a > dangerous question here!) on how often these are > actually used? > Transfer panels for what? alternate power sources for the emergency lighting? Microphone and audio line level signal patching? Transport system for bringing beer up to the FOH sound operator during the show? I've seen and used all of the above. --Dale ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20060706200552.00c168d8 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2006 20:05:52 From: CB Subject: Re: Boston Pops Fireworks >as for the sound, If its anything like Tucson, it's not the sound op, nor the provider's fault. For some reason, at least here, the people in charge of organizing these kind of things are not really thinking that sound is important. I actually had a parent of a group of small children singers bring their own VHF plasti-crap wireless to the gig at the instructions of the booking agent. No-one told me that there would be a need for wireless, no-one even gave me much of a stage plot, nor did I get a line check, much less a sound check. These kids materialized out of the crowd with their dad, sho reached into his grocery bag to retrieve thier wireless, and gave me the instructions that, "This one needs to sit just so or the power connection fails". Yeah, great... Hey, it could be the provider, or the. It usually isn't though, is the wierd thing. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20060706201604.00c168d8 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2006 20:16:04 From: CB Subject: Re: Randy Ridley / Memphis Moonshine Lighting passes away >This is getting just a little scary. That's the third guy in his mid-50's >in this business to die of a heart attack this year that I know about. Is >this normal? I thought you did at least *some* work in the music biz, Unk! "Only the good die young!", the rest of us have to stay here and work. "Everyone wants to go to heaven, no one wants to die". Me, I'm an athiest. If I'm wrong, I dare him (or her, or them) to come tell me so. Anyhoo, I don't wanna get off the ride quite yet, and, marking an era, and to that end, the Big Beemer is gone. I'm doing a minimum of a half hour on the bike every day, (or golf) and eating like a tree hugging hippie chick. Eggs are out, chocolate is out, butter is out, milk is skim (I get to do 1% for the cappas though), ice cream is soy, steak is fish, sour cream is yoghurt, so is cream cheese, so is brie. The last big meal I made was filafel sandwiches, with tzatziki sauce, hummus and taboulli. All homemade except the pitas. Oh, and the Saffron rice. What's beer? Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-ID: <002901c6a174$238d9f40$0600000a [at] BRUTUS> From: "Jon Ares" References: Subject: Re: Randy Ridley / Memphis Moonshine Lighting passes away Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 20:19:21 -0700 > Eggs are out, chocolate is out, butter is out, milk is skim (I get to do > 1% > for the cappas though), ice cream is soy, steak is fish, sour cream is > yoghurt, so is cream cheese, so is brie. The last big meal I made was > filafel sandwiches, with tzatziki sauce, hummus and taboulli. All > homemade > except the pitas. Oh, and the Saffron rice. > What's beer? Ok, where's Chris, and what did you do to him??! - Jon Ares www.hevanet.com/acreative ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2006 22:18:54 -0700 From: Jerry Durand Subject: fireworks photos Message-id: <7.0.1.0.0.20060706221513.02011108 [at] interstellar.com> I acquired some gallery software and now you have thumbnails to look at and can even have a slide show. Clicking on the picture will still get you the full sized one. I only did this on the July 1-4 2006 folders. I was kind and turned off the background music, maybe it should be "It's a small world..." on endless loop. :) Now to do all the other pictures on the site, but for now bed. I have to get up early to work in the attic, just found out the roofers are coming Monday and I'm not ready. They wanted to come tomorrow!! Nothing like advance notice. -- Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc. www.interstellar.com 219 Oak Wood Way, Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886 Skype: jerrydurand ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2006 01:31:03 -0400 Subject: Re: Randy Ridley / Memphis Moonshine Lighting passes away From: Herrick Goldman Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Wimp! On 7/6/06 8:16 PM, "CB" wrote: and eating like a tree hugging > hippie chick. -- Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com 917-797-3624 "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS ------------------------------ Message-ID: <02ea01c6a185$d8541830$6401a8c0 [at] amd2200> From: "Idaho Scenic & Rigging" References: Subject: screen to printer matching - was- Re: Mortgage the dog! Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 23:26:04 -0600 Steve Is it possible to hypnotize you to help remember details? I have the same problem. Additionally I have a six color ink system. There are some prints that I would Really like to match between my camera-PhotoShop-screen-printer. Any body else out there really picky about their screen to printer matching? Rob't ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Larson" Subject: Re: Mortgage the dog! > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Actually trial and error. Can't remember all the details, sorry. ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20060706225207.00c168d8 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2006 22:52:07 From: CB Subject: HBD to y'all >> My brother's birthday is also today. I'm a twin. > >What is it with riggers being twins? Safety in redundancy. I think thaey think its a requirement... Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20060706232115.00c168d8 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2006 23:21:15 From: CB Subject: Electricians Needed >* and no per diem or travel allowance. DANG! ; > Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 09:12:45 +0100 From: Dorian Kelly Subject: Re: MacBook or MacBook Pro? >For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see >--------------------------------------------------- Greg writes,,,, >Greetings, > >For those of you that have bought the MacBook have you been disappointed >with it's performance? Have you wished you spent more money and purchased a >MacBook Pro? > Buying a mac is like trying to jump on a moving train, you have to pick your moment, because the trains always going faster than you are. I have had every flavour of mac though my hands, thats ever been, (and I say that as one of the first to buy an Apple 11E) and as the proud owner of G3, G4, G5 machines and now the macbook pro, I have to say that very one of them, except for the road kill 7200 and the cube has been amazingly fast and compared to the previous model a huge improvement. The MacBook pro is no exception and I recommend it heartily. The extra money, at least here in the UK is not that much and well worth it. As Herrick pointed out, max it out with as much ram and the biggest HD you can afford. However you will not notice an immediate improvement in speed over the MacBook when using office 2004, because the Microsofties have not yet made a version to run natively under Intel, so there is some loss in speed as Rosetta interprets it.The same applies to Photoshop. When such (paid) upgrades are available, there will be a noticeable improvement in speed. In the meantime the macbook pro is better in every respect, except that I have paranoid reservations about the security of the inbuilt camera. The other problem as pointed out in postings passim, is that OS9 or anything earlier, including Classic will not run at all. Its now unsupported, so any software you have which relies on it will be useless. If you have external firewire drives they will work fine as storage, but may not be bootable without reformatting as the intel based macs use a different partition scheme, the GUID partition table. Dorian ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 10:52:37 +0100 From: Clive Mitchell Subject: Re: MacBook or MacBook Pro? References: In-Reply-To: In message , Dorian Kelly writes >In the meantime the macbook pro is better in every respect, except that >I have paranoid reservations about the security of the inbuilt camera. Don't much care for on-computer webcams. I think if my computer had one built in I'd have a bit of black tape across it. -- Clive Mitchell http://www.bigclive.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 10:57:36 +0100 (BST) From: Charlie Richmond Subject: Re: Rhode Island Night Club update In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: On Thu, 6 Jul 2006, Cosmo wrote: > that incident, but how we "bring people up" in the business. If > someone would provide some server space, I'll be glad to send it > along... Send it along and I'll put it up.. Charlie ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #869 *****************************