Return-Path: X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.10) with PIPE id 29844692; Mon, 01 May 2006 03:01:12 -0700 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=ADVANCE_FEE_1,ADVANCE_FEE_2, AWL,BAYES_00,NO_RECEIVED,NO_RELAYS,SARE_ADULT2 autolearn=no version=3.1.1 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.1 (2006-03-10) on localhost X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2.10 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #791 Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 03:00:27 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4 X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #791 1. Super gran. by Clive Mitchell 2. Re: Class for civilians WAS Re: MAYOR'S WIFE FALLS INTO ORCHESTRAPIT... by Clive Mitchell 3. Re: Super gran. by Stuart Wheaton 4. Re: Sobering Thought by "Paul Guncheon" 5. Re: Sobering Thought by Jim Hyslop 6. Re: the wonderful world of Opera by Jim Hyslop 7. Re: Design the perfect sawhorse by Kyle Dugger 8. Re: Sobering Thought by Garry Brown 9. Re: MAYOR'S WIFE FALLS INTO ORCHESTRA PIT... by "ladesigners [at] juno.com" 10. Where to list scenic rentals... by "Steve Jones" 11. Re: MAYOR'S WIFE FALLS INTO ORCHESTRA PIT... by MissWisc [at] aol.com 12. Re: MAYOR'S WIFE FALLS INTO ORCHESTRA PIT... by "ladesigners [at] juno.com" 13. Re: Sobering Thought by 14. Re: Sobering Thought by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 15. Re: the wonderful world of Opera by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 16. Re: Inspector woes - cable dressing on a grid? by Mitch Hefter 17. Re: MAYOR'S WIFE FALLS INTO ORCHESTRA PIT... by FrankWood95 [at] aol.com 18. Re: Class for civilians WAS Re: MAYOR'S WIFE FALLS INTO ORCHESTRAPIT... by "Idaho Scenic & Rigging" 19. Re: Super gran. by Clive Mitchell 20. need help!: paint soaking into fabric by "kosteral [at] juno.com" 21. 2006 Performer Rigging Workshop by "Hall Associates Flying Effects" 22. Re: need help!: paint soaking into fabric by "Simon Shuker" *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-ID: Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 12:04:35 +0100 From: Clive Mitchell Subject: Super gran. The Rambo Granny of Melbourne, Australia Gun-toting granny Ava Estelle, 81, was so ticked-off when two thugs raped her 18-year-old granddaughter that she tracked the unsuspecting ex-cons down - - and shot off their testicles. The old lady spent a week hunting those men down -- and when she found them, she took revenge on them in her own special way, said Melbourne police investigator Evan Delp. Then she took a taxi to the nearest police station, laid the gun on the sergeant's desk and told him as calm as could be: 'Those bastards will never rape anybody again, by God.' Cops say convicted rapist and robber Davis Furth, 33, lost both his penis and his testicles when outraged Ava opened fire with a 9-mm pistol in the hotel room where he and former prison cell mate Stanley Thomas, 29, were holed up. The wrinkled avenger also blew Thomas' testicles to kingdom come, but doctors managed to save his mangled penis, police said. The one guy, Thomas, didn't lose his manhood, but the doctor I talked to said he won't be using it the way he used to, Detective Delp told reporters. Both men are still in pretty bad shape, but I think they're just happy to be alive after what they've been through. The Rambo Granny swung into action August 21 after her granddaughter Debbie was carjacked and raped in broad daylight by two knife-wielding creeps in a section of town bordering on skid row. "When I saw the look on my Debbie's face that night in the hospital, I decided I was going to go out and get those bastards myself 'cause I figured the Law would go easy on them," recalled the retired library worker. "And I wasn't scared of them, either-- because I've got me a gun and I've been shooting' all my life. And I wasn't dumb enough to turn it in when the law changed about owning one." So, using a police artist's sketch of the suspects and Debbie's description of the sickos', tough-as-nails Ava spent seven days prowling the wino-infested neighborhood where the crime took place till she spotted the ill fated rapists entering their flophouse hotel. I knew it was them the minute I saw 'em, but I shot a picture of 'em anyway and took it back to Debbie and she said sure as hell, it was them, the oldster recalled. So I went back to that hotel and found their room and knocked on the door and the minute the big one, , opened the door, I shot 'em right square between the legs, right where it would really hurt 'em most, you know. Then I went in and shot the other one as he backed up pleading to me to spare him. Then I went down to the police station and turned myself in. Now, baffled lawmen are trying to figure out exactly how to deal with the vigilante granny. What she did was wrong, and she broke the law, but it is difficult to throw an 81-year-old woman in prison, Det. Delp said, especially when 3 million people in the city want to nominate her for Mayor. -- Clive Mitchell http://www.bigclive.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 12:03:09 +0100 From: Clive Mitchell Subject: Re: Class for civilians WAS Re: MAYOR'S WIFE FALLS INTO ORCHESTRAPIT... References:

In-Reply-To: In message , Mark O'Brien writes >> Any jobs going in Canada, New Zealand or Australia? :) > > >Don't want to work here? > >:-) Well without meaning to be rude..... No. :) America is fine in small doses like holidays, but not on an ongoing basis. That said, I wouldn't mind spending some time working on a few contracts with one of the larger signage companies like YESCO in 'Vegas. -- Clive Mitchell http://www.bigclive.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4454AB46.5040501 [at] fuse.net> Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 08:19:18 -0400 From: Stuart Wheaton Reply-To: sdwheaton [at] fuse.net Subject: Re: Super gran. References: In-Reply-To: Clive Mitchell wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > The Rambo Granny of Melbourne, Australia > Clive, it seems too good to be true, and according to Snopes it isn't! www.snopes.com/crime/justice/grambo.htm Fun story for fiction though! Stuart ------------------------------ Message-ID: <001a01c66c51$a5d7ec60$0202a8c0 [at] HUNKACRAP> From: "Paul Guncheon" References: Subject: Re: Sobering Thought Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 02:28:54 -1000 <> I went to a fast food joint where I used to hang around when I was in high school. I was amazed at the number of little kids hanging around there. Laters, Paul "I won't be on time," Tom said belatedly. ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4454C04D.7010904 [at] dreampossible.ca> Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 09:49:01 -0400 From: Jim Hyslop Organization: Dreampossible Inc. Subject: Re: Sobering Thought References:

In-Reply-To: Paul Guncheon wrote: > I went to a fast food joint where I used to hang around when I was in high > school. I was amazed at the number of little kids hanging around there. Yeah, apparently the #1 thought running through peoples' minds at high school reunions (never been to one myself) is "Where did all the old folks come from?" -- Jim Hyslop ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4454C0DE.9040508 [at] dreampossible.ca> Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 09:51:26 -0400 From: Jim Hyslop Organization: Dreampossible Inc. Subject: Re: the wonderful world of Opera References:

In-Reply-To: Idaho Scenic & Rigging wrote: > I will know 60 seconds beforehand that I am retiring. > when my left arm goes numb and I grab my chest, > > It's a joke that nobody ever laughs at. Because most of the people > I work with see no humor in it. > but in it's sick way it is true in it's honesty. > > Then, I also say: > I retired twenty five years ago, because my work is not a job, it > is a true joy. Ah, you would probable enjoy the sig line a friend of mine has picked up: Surely the object of life is not to arrive at the Pearly Gates in a dignified manner in a pristine body; but rather to skid, stumble or stagger there, worn and battered yelling "My God! What a ride!" -- Jim Hyslop ------------------------------ Message-ID: <20354831.1146409774553.JavaMail.root [at] elwamui-cypress.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 10:09:34 -0500 (GMT-05:00) From: Kyle Dugger Reply-To: Kyle Dugger Subject: Re: Design the perfect sawhorse >Being a portable guy, These are excellent. .I use them with one >difference.(I think) The bottom "rail" is not full width and the >two "stiles" run past 3/4" of an inch to (when assembled) form 4 >legs. versus the angled full length of Jerry's design. Other than >my 4 foot wide ones, I have built two 6" wide ones to accommodate >4x8 platforms from falling off the side. I have used this same design and found them to be very usefull. They are light, strong and don't take up much space to store. Kyle ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4454E3EC.9080004 [at] iglou.com> Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 12:21:00 -0400 From: Garry Brown Subject: Re: Sobering Thought References: In-Reply-To: On several occasions now I've had in classes and in my shop the children of friends with whom I went to school. Recently I advised the boyfriend of a friend's daughter. That's OK, although it was a groaner moment a while back when I realized that I am now older than most of my students' parents. Reminds me of a retired colleague, who said: "I knew it was time when a pretty coed walked into my class and I found myself thinking 'I wonder what her mother looks like.'" Garry Brown Production Manager University of Louisville ------------------------------ From: "ladesigners [at] juno.com" Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 16:21:29 GMT Subject: Re: MAYOR'S WIFE FALLS INTO ORCHESTRA PIT... Message-Id: <20060430.092227.10965.282536 [at] webmail36.lax.untd.com> In Los Angeles, where I practice law and sit as a Temporary Judge, we ha= ve the largest trial court system in the US, if not the world, comprisin= g of the Central Courthouse and over fifty Branch courts for the 600 plu= s full-time judges and 100 plus Temporary Judges to sit. As a result, ov= er 10,000 jurors a day are summoned, and 1,700 plus of them are given pa= rking downtown each day. It would be a logistical nightmare to plant a p= articular juror on a particular case, in that there are numerous levels = of computer-assisted random selection of jurors. Yes, lawyers can reques= t the judge 'Thank and Excuse' a certain number of jurors, but this is a= very public process and it is quite obvious if a lawyer attempts to thr= ow out a 'type' of juror. /s/ Richard Niederberg __________________________ > FrankWood95 [at] aol.com wrote: >> There are things that I do not understand about the US legal system. = In the UK, for any given courthouse, enough jurors, and a slight surplus= , are selected from the electoral register to handle all the cases that = are to be presented, at random. I've been there. From this great raft of= potential jurors, juries of 12 are allocated, again at random, to hear = individual cases, again at random. Formally, at least, there is no way y= ou can pack a jury. Practically, I am less certain. I think that the security services have ways to do this. In Ca= nada, and I believe in the U.S. as well, either side may reject a juror for whatever reasons they see fit. So, all the defendant's lawyers= have to do is reject anyone who isn't wearing a business suit worth at = least $1,000. ________________________ It's a little more complex than that in the US. And the rules are d= ifferent depending on the particular court system you are in, and whatev= er administrative rules the senior judge has put into effect for the cou= rt district, and the whims of the actual presiding judge in the courtroo= m. Generally the lawyers on each side can reject without penalty any = juror who indicates a bias in the case during jury selection. What this= bias may be is basically whatever they can persuade the presiding judge= is bias. Each side can further reject a finite number of potential jur= ors for no reason at all. For a controversial case, that has received extensive pretrial news= coverage, finding enough jurors that pass this gauntlet can be very dif= ficult. I was called for jury duty several years ago, and my luck was t= o be on the day they were selecting the jury for the murder trial of the= british au-pair here in Boston. What a zoo it was that day. There were a couple hundred people called that day, I think they = actually selected three or four. I never even got called up to be = questioned. I was still waiting my turn when quitting time rolled = around, and they sent the rest of us home, having satisfied our obligati= on. --Dale ------------------------------ Message-Id: <200604301655.k3UGttLM018507 [at] ns-omrbm2.netsolmail.com> From: "Steve Jones" Subject: Where to list scenic rentals... Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 11:55:46 -0500 Organization: Plaza Theatre Greetings all! The local high school here is closing a run of BEAUTY AND THE BEAST here at the Plaza today. They have had a set built and are looking to either sell or rent (they would prefer to sell) it to another group looking to do the show. Does anyone know of anywhere on the Net where they could list the set fir sale w/ photos? Sort of a scenic classified ads. Thanks! Steve ************************************* Steve Jones, Director Plaza Theatre 115 E. Main Street Glasgow, KY 42141 Voice: (270) 361-2101 Fax: (270) 834-8147 http://www.glasgowplazatheatre.org 1964 - The Tribute Friday, May 12, 2006, 7:00 PM ------------------------------ From: MissWisc [at] aol.com Message-ID: <386.27aca5f.31864726 [at] aol.com> Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 13:00:22 EDT Subject: Re: MAYOR'S WIFE FALLS INTO ORCHESTRA PIT... ladesigners [at] juno.com writes: << Politics and popularity definitely does sway juries. >> So what's your opinion on the "professional juror" person Heinlein created for "Stranger in a Strange Land". (Sorry... it's been to long since I read it to remember the chatactor name....she's the girl who says something like the house is white "on this side but might not be on the other.") Kristi ------------------------------ From: "ladesigners [at] juno.com" Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 17:19:27 GMT Subject: Re: MAYOR'S WIFE FALLS INTO ORCHESTRA PIT... Message-Id: <20060430.101950.10965.282618 [at] webmail36.lax.untd.com> No opinion. /s/ Richard __________________ ladesigners [at] juno.com writes: << Politics and popularity definitely does sway juries. >> So what's your opinion on the "professional juror" person Heinlein crea= ted for "Stranger in a Strange Land". (Sorry... it's been to long since = I read it to remember the chatactor name....she's the girl who says som= ething like the house is white "on this side but might not be on the o= ther.") Kristi = ------------------------------ Subject: RE: Sobering Thought Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 13:26:53 -0400 Message-ID: From: John, Actually, that has already occurred with my wife's kindergartners and she is 10 years younger than me. Babies having babies.=20 Steve in response to others who recalled that they had had strange feelings when they realized that they were teaching people who weren't even born when they started college. Consider how strange it is when you realize that you are teaching the children of children you taught in college! -- JLB=20 ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <38d.2825fad.31864e7a [at] aol.com> Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 13:31:38 EDT Subject: Re: Sobering Thought In a message dated 30/04/06 14:49:43 GMT Daylight Time, theatre [at] dreampossible.ca writes: > Yeah, apparently the #1 thought running through peoples' minds at high > school reunions (never been to one myself) is "Where did all the old > folks come from?" It's equally sobering if you work for a big organisation for a long time. You always think of people as they were when first you met them, irrespective of how far they've been promoted, and in spite of the fact that you have had a less than meteoric career. It is sometimes surprising how well they seem to remember you, though. Not only the top brass. In my early career with the BBC, I worked at one site for maybe six months. I went back to finish my career there some eighteen years later (it served as a repository for maverick engineers). The commissionaire on the front gate greeted me by name. Frank Wood ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <3dd.137d8cd.3186504b [at] aol.com> Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 13:39:23 EDT Subject: Re: the wonderful world of Opera In a message dated 30/04/06 14:51:50 GMT Daylight Time, theatre [at] dreampossible.ca writes: > Surely the object of life is not to arrive at the Pearly Gates in a > dignified manner in a pristine body; but rather to skid, stumble or > stagger there, worn and battered yelling "My God! What a ride!" I quote a line from the Koran. "With good and with evil we will prove you, and unto us you shall return". It seems apt. Certainly, many Christian martyrs came to very sticky ends. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Message-Id: <6.1.0.6.2.20060430120528.01fef2d8 [at] mail.DesignRelief.com> Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 12:47:07 -0500 From: Mitch Hefter Subject: Re: Inspector woes - cable dressing on a grid? In-Reply-To: References: Sean McCarthy wrote: >Mitch... > >Thanks for the reply. That is what I understood it to be, but hadn't ever >really looked into it. > >Back to the code: > >Article 590. Does this mean there is supposed to be GFCI protection on >all those extension cords used during load-in and strike? On the table >saw/chop saw/etc that gets wheeled into the theatre for the load-in >period? On the circuit powering the Genie? >When we tie in a PD to supply power to all of the above tools? Remember that the temporary power section is primarily, but not exclusively, aimed at construction sites. When you are loading in or striking, you are using portable equipment that is connected to a permanent system. As long as you are indoors, it is unlikely GFCI protection is required. Standard SJ type extension cords may not be acceptable since you are in a 520 venue - you need SO types. Section 240.5 now does allow you to construct your own extension cords under certain restrictions (which includes the requirement for extra-hard cords in 520 venues). 240.5 can also help in the issue of the proper cords for practicals - i.e., you don't have to change the 16-gauge "zip" cord on a listed table lamp to 12-gauge 'SO' cord. >Or is this as ambiguous as it seems? Yes, it can be. Remember, chapters 1-4 apply first, and then are amended (either more or less restrictive) by chapters 5-7. You get to flip (or click) back and forth a lot when researching the Code. It is interesting to attend local chapter meetings of the International Association of Electrical Inspectors (http://www.iaei.org). Even the inspectors can disagree on some points, and there can be lively debates. The first one I attended, the chief inspector for a major city came to me when he found out I was on Panel 15 with some questions - he knew he didn't know this area well and was thankful for the input, even though I'm not an inspector. If you have chapter in your area, it is worth the associate member fee just for the magazine, and the meetings can be quite informative, even if not directly applicable to us. >Thanks again, this is interesting! Hope it Helps! . . . ------------------------------------------------------------------ Mitch Hefter Office: Entertainment Technology, a Genlyte Company mhefter [at] genlytecontrols.com +1-214/ 647-7880 x 7967 http://www.etdimming.com :: http://www.vari-lite.com ------------------------------ From: FrankWood95 [at] aol.com Message-ID: <382.286d719.31865410 [at] aol.com> Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 13:55:28 EDT Subject: Re: MAYOR'S WIFE FALLS INTO ORCHESTRA PIT... In a message dated 30/04/06 18:00:58 GMT Daylight Time, MissWisc [at] aol.com writes: > So what's your opinion on the "professional juror" person Heinlein created > for "Stranger in a Strange Land". (Sorry... it's been to long since I read > it > to remember the chatactor name....she's the girl who says something like > the > house is white "on this side but might not be on the other.") Anne is a 'Fair Witness'. She has total recall, but will not speak of anything she has neither seen nor heard. Being a juror is different. You have to make your judgement on the evidence presented in court, especially where there is conflict. Note that I say the 'evidence'. This is information that is provable, in court. The prosecutors may well have much more information that is not. Frank Wood ------------------------------ Message-ID: <003201c66c82$0e64e780$6401a8c0 [at] amd2200> From: "Idaho Scenic & Rigging" References:

Subject: Re: Class for civilians WAS Re: MAYOR'S WIFE FALLS INTO ORCHESTRAPIT... Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 12:15:26 -0600 That's why we Americans are sooooo strong. We have to put up with it on an ongoing basis! \ VVBG / I shake my head at worldly events (and everyday stuff) just as much as I do at our national ones. Rob't ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clive Mitchell" > Well without meaning to be rude..... No. :) > > America is fine in small doses like holidays, but not on an ongoing > basis. ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 20:50:24 +0100 From: Clive Mitchell Subject: Re: Super gran. References:

In-Reply-To: In message , Stuart Wheaton writes >Clive, it seems too good to be true, and according to Snopes it isn't! > > www.snopes.com/crime/justice/grambo.htm > >Fun story for fiction though! That's OK. Just embellish it further. When Eva first entered the wino area she was surprised how many looked like the rapists who had screwed her little girl, so she just loaded up her 9mm gun and started firing indiscriminately into their groinal areas. "The place was awash with blootered testicles and willies said Eva proudly. I just blew them all to smithereens. It was only a couple of days later that I realised that I had actually been in a government office and had castrated about 1000 council workers. Obviously I was surprised, but on the other hand the parasites deserved it anyway, so I had no regrets." Henry Bucket a specialist in free housing for wasters said... "We were busy giving away tax payers money to scumbags when this old lady walked in, shouted "die you vermin" and started shooting us all in the nads. I just remember the bang and my pants going all red and squishy, then realising my penis had gone and my ass being much wider than before." Police said they were investigating but saw no reason to prosecute Eva since the council workers had been "asking for it" for a while. -- Clive Mitchell http://www.bigclive.com ------------------------------ From: "kosteral [at] juno.com" Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 03:55:34 GMT Subject: need help!: paint soaking into fabric Message-Id: <20060430.205616.28635.845967 [at] webmail47.nyc.untd.com> I/we need some help from this wise collective of 'crafters: Our current show has a curved 'wall' of staggered panels--the front pane= ls consist of two vertical swaths of a stretchy material on frames (a la= Svoboda's wall of elastic strips that can be walked through), while the= rear row of panels are simply soft flats. (Yeah, the set looks a bit l= ike Stonehenge....and students have taken to calling the front stretchy = panels with the vertical slits "stage-ginas"...) = A problem has arisen when my coworker (scenic designer) has tried to pai= nt the panels and the floor. He would like to do a heavy spray/drip tex= ture on all the panels. (It doesn't have to be an even application, but= should be somewhat uniform between the front fabric panels and the back= soft flats.) The paint, applied with a Hudson sprayer, really soaks in= to the fabric. A LOT. = The question: does anyone have any suggestions what to use to treat the= fabric to keep the paint on the surface rather than soaking in? The fabric was purchased at a mill end wholesale-type place, and the fab= ric content is not marked anywhere on the bolt. (Of course it is not th= e same fabric as was experimented with initially!) The fabric is defini= tely woven (as opposed to a knit), and is likely a polyester/nylon/spand= ex blend....if I had to guess, I'd say 60% nylon/30% polyester/10% spand= ex (I spent a year working as a textile chemist--if I had access to nast= y chemicals and a microscope I could do the fiber identification!). I w= ould not expect paint to soak into nylon & poly this much--in fact, I wo= uld expect the opposite that it wouldn't want to stick/wet much at all! = = There is some leftover fabric, and the scenic designer is going to do so= me experimenting tomorrow with alum, starch, and anything else he can th= ink of. If anyone has any other suggestions for fabric treatment to pre= vent the paint from soaking in, please let me know and I'll pass them on= . Please e-mail a copy of your suggestions directly to me (as well as p= osting them to the list)--I get the digest form, and we really can't wai= t a day for me to read the suggestions! Many thanks. Allison Koster Lighting Designer Carleton College ________________________________________________________________________= Try Juno Platinum for Free! Then, only $9.95/month! Unlimited Internet Access with 1GB of Email Storage. Visit http://www.juno.com/value to sign up today! ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Hall Associates Flying Effects" Cc: info [at] flyingfx.com Subject: 2006 Performer Rigging Workshop Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 01:59:31 -0500 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi all This is a reminder for all who may be interested: =20 The 2007 Performer Rigging Workshop is scheduled for June 7, 8, 9, and = 10, in Dekalb, IL at Northern Illinois University - brought to you by the = North American Association of Flying Effects Directors. Our co-presenters this year are Mr. Mark Dirkse and Mr. Tracy Nunnally. Mark Dirkse, of Action Specialists, is an expert in motorized flying = systems and outdoor shows, and also might be once again be convinced to do a = full body burn as part of our closing ceremonies :-). Tracy Nunnally is the president of Hall Associates Flying Effects and a professor of theatre technology at Northern Illinois University. Together, they will lead = you through an exploration of traditional flying systems, pendulum systems, track system, and flying winches, and some non-traditional performer = lift systems as well. In addition to the customary fare of rigging physics and hands on = workshop sessions, we will have a special section on June 9 led by our guest = speaker, Mr. Bruce Smith, co-author of the book, "On Rope", and owner of On Rope = 1, in Harrison Tennessee. Bruce's book is considered by many Cirque = riggers to be the bible of performer rigging, and is on sale in the gift shops of = many Cirque productions. The 4 day workshop is still $480 per person, with a $50 discount if you = are a USITT or CITT member, and a $50 discount if you are a student (yes, = you can use both if you are a CITT or USITT student). In addition to the 4 day Performer Rigging Workshop, we have had a great deal of inquiries from aerialists who want some basic information, but = do not need and in depth exploration of track systems or winches. For you, = we are producing a mini-workshop on June 5 and 6. This workshop is specifically geared toward aerial performers who need to know more about = the systems from which they are hanging. We will cover loads, forces, materials, equipment, various apparatus, lifting & lowering, attachment points & anchors, and terminology to use when talking to venues and = riggers. This workshop will be $200 per person, with a $25 discount for = USITT/CITT membership and a $25 discount if you are a student. Both workshops can be taken for $600 per person. Our website is still experiencing some problems, so for more information = and availability, please email me off list. Thanks! Gabe Nunnally Business=A0Manager Hall Associates Flying Effects info [at] flyingfx.com Cell: 815-762-1481 Phone: 888-359-4255, Ext. 109 FAX: 888-359-4255 =A0 www.flyingfx.com ------------------------------ From: "Simon Shuker" Subject: RE: need help!: paint soaking into fabric Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 12:19:20 +0400 In-reply-to: Message-Id: <20060501081948.3193358CD [at] mail05.powweb.com> How about scotch guard or is the result too good ------------------------------------ The Events Factory Simon Shuker simon [at] ef-ae.com PO Box 33559 Dubai United Arab Emirates +9716 5342004 +9716 5342005 050 6323498 www.ef-ae.com ------------------------------------ -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of kosteral [at] juno.com Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 7:56 AM To: Stagecraft Subject: need help!: paint soaking into fabric For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- I/we need some help from this wise collective of 'crafters: Our current show has a curved 'wall' of staggered panels--the front panels consist of two vertical swaths of a stretchy material on frames (a la Svoboda's wall of elastic strips that can be walked through), while the rear row of panels are simply soft flats. (Yeah, the set looks a bit like Stonehenge....and students have taken to calling the front stretchy panels with the vertical slits "stage-ginas"...) A problem has arisen when my coworker (scenic designer) has tried to paint the panels and the floor. He would like to do a heavy spray/drip texture on all the panels. (It doesn't have to be an even application, but should be somewhat uniform between the front fabric panels and the back soft flats.) The paint, applied with a Hudson sprayer, really soaks into the fabric. A LOT. The question: does anyone have any suggestions what to use to treat the fabric to keep the paint on the surface rather than soaking in? The fabric was purchased at a mill end wholesale-type place, and the fabric content is not marked anywhere on the bolt. (Of course it is not the same fabric as was experimented with initially!) The fabric is definitely woven (as opposed to a knit), and is likely a polyester/nylon/spandex blend....if I had to guess, I'd say 60% nylon/30% polyester/10% spandex (I spent a year working as a textile chemist--if I had access to nasty chemicals and a microscope I could do the fiber identification!). I would not expect paint to soak into nylon & poly this much--in fact, I would expect the opposite that it wouldn't want to stick/wet much at all! There is some leftover fabric, and the scenic designer is going to do some experimenting tomorrow with alum, starch, and anything else he can think of. If anyone has any other suggestions for fabric treatment to prevent the paint from soaking in, please let me know and I'll pass them on. Please e-mail a copy of your suggestions directly to me (as well as posting them to the list)--I get the digest form, and we really can't wait a day for me to read the suggestions! Many thanks. Allison Koster Lighting Designer Carleton College ________________________________________________________________________ Try Juno Platinum for Free! Then, only $9.95/month! Unlimited Internet Access with 1GB of Email Storage. Visit http://www.juno.com/value to sign up today! ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #791 *****************************