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Re: Metal cutting Chop Saws by Maia Robbins-Zust 2. Re: Tech rider note by CB 3. Re: Tech rider note by CB 4. Re: Carnage and destruction. Was: Motorcycle air bags (Brief Rant) by CB 5. Re: Managing a High School Theater by "Bill Conner" 6. Re: Tech rider note by "Steve Jones" 7. Re: Managing a High School Theater by CB 8. Re: Strike: Who attends in college, I don't get it..... by CB 9. Re: Louisville restaurants by CB 10. Re: Metal cutting Chop Saws by "Brian Munroe" 11. Personal Protective Devices (was Chop Saws) by "Stephen E. Rees" 12. Re: Personal Protective Devices (was Chop Saws) by Bill Sapsis 13. Re: Louisville restaurants by Andrew Vance 14. Re: Personal Protective Devices (was Chop Saws) by "Stephen E. Rees" 15. Re: Personal Protective Devices (was Chop Saws) by "Curtis L. Mortimore" 16. Re: Personal Protective Devices (was Chop Saws) by "Stephen E. Rees" 17. Re: Louisville restaurants by Garry Brown 18. The ULTIMATE eBay Find for Theater Lovers! by Bruce Purdy 19. Re: The ULTIMATE eBay Find for Theater Lovers! by "Stephen E. Rees" 20. Re: Louisville restaurants by Garry Brown 21. Re: The ULTIMATE eBay Find for Theater Lovers! by Herrick Goldman 22. Re: The ULTIMATE eBay Find for Theater Lovers! by Bruce Purdy 23. Re: The ULTIMATE eBay Find for Theater Lovers! by Herrick Goldman 24. Re: Digest Mode by Bruce Purdy 25. Re: Personal Protective Devices (was Chop Saws) by Dale Farmer 26. Re: The ULTIMATE eBay Find for Theater Lovers! by "richard j. archer" 27. Re: The ULTIMATE eBay Find for Theater Lovers! by Noah Price 28. Re: The ULTIMATE eBay Find for Theater Lovers! by Andrew Vance 29. Re: Original vaudeville drops... by "Hall Associates Flying Effects" 30. Re: The ULTIMATE eBay Find for Theater Lovers! by Steve Jones 31. Re: The ULTIMATE eBay Find for Theater Lovers! by Andrew Vance 32. List Milestones (was Re: The ULTIMATE eBay Find for Theater Lovers!) by Noah Price 33. Re: The ULTIMATE eBay Find for Theater Lovers! by "Tony Deeming" 34. Re: Staff TD by "Bill Nelson" *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 16:30:13 -0500 From: Maia Robbins-Zust Subject: RE: Metal cutting Chop Saws In-reply-to: Message-id: <440DFB65.5080107 [at] williams.edu> References: We've been using a metal cutting chop saw for several years now. Had my first blade re-sharpened last year and found that it doesn't last as long afterwards, (several of the carbide teeth got knocked off pretty much right away). However, a new blade at $100 once every three or four years isn't all that different from buying lotsa abrasives. We've also found that these blades not only cut faster, they cut cleaner and staighter. They work great on inch and a half, schedule 40 pipe. (The noise factor seems to be about the same - I always use ear protection for metal cutting anyway). We also just bought a small plasma cutter. Having it has found me making more things out of flat stock and sheet metal than I would ever have considered before. However, to use one in a scene shop, you must have a really good (read "large capacity") source for compressed air. Maia Robbins-Zust Technical Director Williams College Dept. of Theatre >>Michael, >>> >>> The blades for these saws seem pretty expensive ($90 - $110 >>> from my quick search). What do you pay for the blades and >>> how long do they last? >>> >>> -Delbert > > > Still working on the blade, and I am planning on sharpening it a couple of > times before it goes away. At the rate of work that we do, I expect the > blade to outlast abrasive discs immeasurably. Retipping should also be > possible. > > Others may have a longer experience. > > - Michael ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20060307144511.00d2a278 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 14:45:11 From: CB Subject: RE: Tech rider note >Or, the booking theatre could have just struck it off the contract before >they signed their copy (copies) before submitting to booking agency Not without permission. If a phone call was made suggesting that all is well, but do we really have to get the brown ones out, everyone knew that the rider was going to be filled as requested. Van Halen had one of the first ultra-mega-wegaga rock tours, technically, that toured bitty sheds a lot. The 'brown M&M's' was a result of a history of showing up and having people who *had* signed contracts not living up to their end. Usually because they thought that it wasn't important, or that the rider contained a lot of blue sky that the band didn't need (Now, where could they have gotten *that* idea?) the stuff they had requested. Brown M&M's were not the only odd little detail on the rider, however, there were little subtle indicators sprinkled throughout the contract. Again, these were things that allowed depts to know what level of commitment to the contract the promoter had as they walked into the venue. The brown M&M's was the one that the media hyped over, and the underground rumor/hoax/urban legend crowd kept alive and distributed. >Brown M&M's do not equal "life-threatening" situations. Yeah, but if there were brown M&M's in the bowl, you knew that you might be facing some other life threatening 'oversight' that could be life threatening. This story kinda reminds me of the story about the woman who burned her legs on MacDonalds coffee. Folks always tend to think that she was a bit trivial and that her lawsuit was a nuisance, till they find out about her multiple surgeries as a result, and the seven warnings that the local franchise had had already. The real story always makes more sense, but its less fun. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20060307145526.00d2a278 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 14:55:26 From: CB Subject: RE: Tech rider note >I *know* what the supposed purpose and intent is. And I think it is a >ridiculous way to get the info needed. Now I lay me down to sleep. Please bless mommy, and daddy, and may all of the promoters I work for be at least as smart and detail oriented as Steve is, not the cheap greedy, stupid jerks that I have been working with all these years. I dunno, but from the Rock & Roll trenches, we look at the clean, well kempt and rested world of touring theatre and think, "Cheeze, if I wouldn't have to give up all the drugs, drink and chicks, I could do that!" Touring with white guys on dope is bit of a diff from touring with theatre. Theatre presenters tend to be somewhat civilized, and won't respond to complaints about things missed on the rider with, "F#(& OFF!!" I look forward to working with most fo the folk on theatrical tours, *because* they are like you, Steve. The actually care about the crew and the actors, and that the show is good and safe. Rock promoters only have to give you enough to get the money that one night. If they can squeak by with just enough so that no one asks for their money back, they feel as if they've done it right. (O'course, painting with this wide a brush with only hindsight to guide me, and time as a filter, etc.) Since I gave up groupies, drinking, and doing drugs, I figured I might as well tour theatre... Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20060307145726.00d2a278 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 14:57:26 From: CB Subject: Re: Carnage and destruction. Was: Motorcycle air bags (Brief Rant) >There was a mighty bang, and it all went dark, so we went home. Sometimes, Frank, I just love your dry turn of phrase. This will be with me til at least the end of the week! Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-ID: <038101c64234$1da6c880$6501a8c0 [at] BCA1> Reply-To: "Bill Conner" From: "Bill Conner" Subject: Re: Managing a High School Theater Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 16:11:41 -0600 It seems you might be in Ohio - since there is a Centerville HS there building a theatre - so you might want to drive down to John Hardin HS in Kentucky where they have a pretty active program. http://www.thepac.net/ I think you'll find the director and his staff quite willing to share their experiences. (Not to mention it's a project I'm proud of.) If you are going to USITT, I will visit the facility early that week and you are welcome to join me. If you can't make it, call them and introduce your self and talk to the director for a while - first hand experience from a manger of a successful high school facility. Bill C. ------------------------------ Message-Id: <200603072223.k27MNCBf014484 [at] ns-omrbm3.netsolmail.com> From: "Steve Jones" Subject: RE: Tech rider note Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 16:22:54 -0600 Organization: Plaza Theatre In-Reply-To: You don't need permission to strike something out on a contract before signing it. I do it regularly, as well as adding our own riders. Now, they don't have to AGREE to what you've added or struck. But that's where the negotiations come in. Steve ************************************* Steve Jones, Director Plaza Theatre 115 E. Main Street Glasgow, KY 42141 Voice: (270) 361-2101 Fax: (270) 834-8147 http://www.glasgowplazatheatre.org An Evening With Groucho Saturday, April 22, 2006, 7:00 PM 1964 - The Tribute Friday, May 12, 2006, 7:00 PM -----Original Message----- From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net] On Behalf Of CB Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 2:45 PM To: Stagecraft Subject: Re: Tech rider note For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- >Or, the booking theatre could have just struck it off the contract >before they signed their copy (copies) before submitting to booking >agency Not without permission. If a phone call was made suggesting that all is well, but do we really have to get the brown ones out, everyone knew that the rider was going to be filled as requested. Van Halen had one of the first ultra-mega-wegaga rock tours, technically, that toured bitty sheds a lot. The 'brown M&M's' was a result of a history of showing up and having people who *had* signed contracts not living up to their end. Usually because they thought that it wasn't important, or that the rider contained a lot of blue sky that the band didn't need (Now, where could they have gotten *that* idea?) the stuff they had requested. Brown M&M's were not the only odd little detail on the rider, however, there were little subtle indicators sprinkled throughout the contract. Again, these were things that allowed depts to know what level of commitment to the contract the promoter had as they walked into the venue. The brown M&M's was the one that the media hyped over, and the underground rumor/hoax/urban legend crowd kept alive and distributed. >Brown M&M's do not equal "life-threatening" situations. Yeah, but if there were brown M&M's in the bowl, you knew that you might be facing some other life threatening 'oversight' that could be life threatening. This story kinda reminds me of the story about the woman who burned her legs on MacDonalds coffee. Folks always tend to think that she was a bit trivial and that her lawsuit was a nuisance, till they find out about her multiple surgeries as a result, and the seven warnings that the local franchise had had already. The real story always makes more sense, but its less fun. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20060307153722.00d2a278 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 15:37:22 From: CB Subject: Re: Managing a High School Theater >You can emphasize that hiring a Theatre Manager will offset some of the costs of > You can emphasize= that hiring a Theatre Manager will offset some of the costs of custodia= ns and maintenance workers that would have to be either employed or paid= overtime to maintain the theatre. I'm sorry, Richard, you know how I am loathe to correct your grammar when I can barely type, but I think the correct spelling is, " custodians and maintenance workers that would have to be either employed or paid overtime to maintain the theatre *poorly*". Did a semi-annual gig at a high school (with a really nice presceneium theatre!) because there sound equipment had been stolen, again and again. Including the cluster, and it had taken a chain motor and three skilled rigers to get the speakers up there in the first place! Custodial staff and a teacher split the responsibilities of facilities co-ordinator. I showed up for a ten o'clock call one morning and wandered into the theatre, looking for the custodian. The theatre was unlocked, and the door was open. The custodian showed up at about ten thirty with no explanation. He had been off the campus for about forty-five minutes and had no idea when we were scheduled to be in the space.. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20060307161221.00d2a278 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 16:12:21 From: CB Subject: Re: Strike: Who attends in college, I don't get it..... >The students now think of themselves as one big >group, instead of two opposing camps, One Tuesday night, just before curtain, a dancer remarked at how run down we looked, and why we didn't rest on our 'day off'. We asked her how she thought the set and sound and stuff got to the condition it was every week, at every new venue. She was under teh impression that "we sent it here and the guys here set it up". She was amazed to discover that her run crew stayed to take the thing apart after the evening show on Sunday night, and got there early to put it back together in the new city on Tuesday... Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20060307162057.00d2a278 [at] pop.west.cox.net> Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 16:20:57 From: CB Subject: RE: Louisville restaurants >The Pub does have a good = >selection of beer and top shelf liquors and its right next to the = >convention center. Some other places worth eating and drinking at that = >are within walking distance are: The Bristol, 614 W. Main St. The Pub has a bit of an English Pub veneer, but the food isn't so much. The beer and liquor selections are excellent. Fourth Ave Live had a bit of a 'mall' feel to me. Bristol, however, was great. The food was excellent, and they were absolutely wonderful about setting aside a large table for us, and having our entrees ready and waiting when we had a very limited time between shows to get a larg group fed. (some of us were tired of eating at less civilised establishments). Right near the KCFA is a decent Mexican Restaurant, too! Tell the folk at Bristol that I sent you! It won't do you any good, but I'd it'll let them know that I appreciated the extra mile that they went for us. And I second the suggestion to get out to Bardstown Road, too. Sort of a college/bohemian kinda feel. "Keep Louisville Wierd" t-shirts abound out there. Chris "Chris" Babbie Location Sound MON AZ Delete key training and post trimming done by appointment. Rates negotiable, will trade for typing lessons/ADD treatment... ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 18:20:10 -0500 From: "Brian Munroe" Subject: Re: Metal cutting Chop Saws In-Reply-To: References: On 3/7/06, Maia Robbins-Zust wrote: > > The noise factor seems to be about the same - I always use ear protectio= n > for metal cutting anyway. I have measurable hearing loss in both my ears, mostly from working in scene shops without using hearing protection and playing music too loud in the car. The buzzing in my ears elimates sound mixing as a career option... I would strongly encourage using hearing protection for ALL cutting, wood or steel, and any other loud power tools. Eye protection seems to be drilled into your head at school and work, but not hearing protection. Brian Munroe bpmunroe [at] gmail.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <440E1CB5.1050106 [at] fredonia.edu> Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 18:52:21 -0500 From: "Stephen E. Rees" Reply-To: Rees [at] fredonia.edu Subject: Personal Protective Devices (was Chop Saws) References: Not here, just dropped another $50.00 for another round of HP for all the shop freshlings. (Not muffs, the inserts on a string, -31dB. They are all provided eye and hearing protection precisely because of hearing conditions like yours and mine and many others whom I'm aware of. Maybe it will save their hearing if we can get them to use it consistently. Steve Rees Brian Munroe wrote: > I would strongly encourage using hearing protection for ALL cutting, > wood or steel, and any other loud power tools. Eye protection seems > to be drilled into your head at school and work, but not hearing > protection. > > Brian Munroe > bpmunroe [at] gmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 19:35:38 -0500 Subject: Re: Personal Protective Devices (was Chop Saws) From: Bill Sapsis Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Huh? Did he say something? What was it, I couldn't hear it? What's he say? <> Bill S. www.sapsis-rigging.com 800.727.7471 800.292.3851 fax 267.278.4561 mobile Join the Long Reach Long Riders on their 3rd annual cross country charity motorcycle ride. On 3/7/06 6:52 PM, "Stephen E. Rees" wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > > Not here, just dropped another $50.00 for another round of HP for all > the shop freshlings. (Not muffs, the inserts on a string, -31dB. They > are all provided eye and hearing protection precisely because of hearing > conditions like yours and mine and many others whom I'm aware of. Maybe > it will save their hearing if we can get them to use it consistently. > Steve Rees > > Brian Munroe wrote: > >> I would strongly encourage using hearing protection for ALL cutting, >> wood or steel, and any other loud power tools. Eye protection seems >> to be drilled into your head at school and work, but not hearing >> protection. >> >> Brian Munroe >> bpmunroe [at] gmail.com > > ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: From: Andrew Vance Subject: Re: Louisville restaurants Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 19:15:28 -0600 On 07 Mar, 2006, at 16:20 , CB wrote: > Fourth Ave Live had a bit of a 'mall' feel to me. Rebekkah will correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Fourth Street Live where the Galleria Mall used to be? I haven't been there, but the pictures I've seen of it look suspiciously familiar to what I remember the Galleria looking like, and its location seems to be in the same spot as well. Ah well, I could just be getting old and the memory failing too I guess. > Right near the KCFA is a decent Mexican Restaurant, too! Los Aztecas is the one you're thinking of and one of my personal favorites. I can still taste the Quesadilla Roja now. All this talk of my old haunts has got me missing the town something fierce. Man, I have to get back to Louisville one of these days! -- Sincerely, Andrew Vance Lighting Designer atvanceld [at] gmail.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <440E311F.7070608 [at] fredonia.edu> Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 20:19:27 -0500 From: "Stephen E. Rees" Reply-To: Rees [at] fredonia.edu Subject: Re: Personal Protective Devices (was Chop Saws) References: HEY, Jus take the shooing gum out yor earah and ship my order! ;) Steve Bill Sapsis wrote: > Huh? Did he say something? What was it, I couldn't hear it? > What's he say? > > <> > Bill S. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 20:20:56 -0500 Subject: Re: Personal Protective Devices (was Chop Saws) From: "Curtis L. Mortimore" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Why waste our time trying to save their ears from the saw when the minute they leave the shop they've got the i-pod cranked to 11. Maybe we would be better served teaching them ASL. Yep, the constant din in my head is pretty annoying. Thanks for listening... if you can hear me... What kind of HP does everyone use? I prefer the corded disposable plugs http://www.discountsafetygear.com/holemaeaboxo.html In my experience they can be re-used quite a few times as long as you keep them clean, I've tried washing them but that doesn't seem to work to well. The students don't seem to like them much and prefer muffs. When my wife bought a chainsaw I insisted on hearing protection and told her to get whatever she wanted. The ear muffs she bought are best pair I've ever worn. They are sold by Stihl and are super comfortable. How do you regulate usage in the shop? All the time? Only when using power tools? Only when the boss is around? And can someone who knows ASL translate for Bill? :) -- Curtis L. Mortimore Technical Director Ball State University Department of Theatre and Dance Muncie, IN 47306 ------------------------------ Message-ID: <440E3504.3040208 [at] fredonia.edu> Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 20:36:04 -0500 From: "Stephen E. Rees" Reply-To: Rees [at] fredonia.edu Subject: Re: Personal Protective Devices (was Chop Saws) References: Curtis, How do you sign and run a screwgun simultaneously? ;) We make the crew have them available at all times and stick them in when actually performing a task. Many wear them all the time regardless. We issue corded reusable at about $2/pr by AOSafety. They can be washed often. Get them at my lumber yard. We stock about half a dozen AOSafety muff type with 30dB NRR for visitors and such. I've been known to wear both simultaneously when using the abrasive chop saw on steel. Steve Curtis L. Mortimore wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > > Why waste our time trying to save their ears from the saw when the minute > they leave the shop they've got the i-pod cranked to 11. Maybe we would be > better served teaching them ASL. > > Yep, the constant din in my head is pretty annoying. > > Thanks for listening... if you can hear me... > > > > What kind of HP does everyone use? ------------------------------ Message-ID: <440E37AF.3090003 [at] iglou.com> Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 20:47:27 -0500 From: Garry Brown Subject: Re: Louisville restaurants References: In-Reply-To: Andrew Vance wrote: > Rebekkah will correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Fourth Street Live > where the Galleria Mall used to be? I haven't been there, but the > pictures I've seen of it look suspiciously familiar to what I > remember the Galleria looking like, and its location seems to be in > the same spot as well. Ah well, I could just be getting old and the > memory failing too I guess. That is correct. 4th Street Live is the latest in a long string of projects designed to revitalize downtown. The great glass Titanic-- I mean, the Galleria, was mostly taken out to make way for the new hoppin' town, with theme bars, restaurants, theme bars, a bowling alley, theme bars, Borders bookstore, and assorted other enterprises. What you'll find lacking is small interesting businesses and shops. If you're looking for a real dining experience, try Lynn's Paradise Cafe on Barret Avenue. It's not downtown but I promise it will be a tasty and eclectic experience. Looking forward to seeing y'all here. Anyone needing instructions on the corect pronunciation of Louisville should contact me off-list. It's not what you may think. Garry Brown University of Louisville Theatre Arts ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 20:52:18 -0500 Subject: The ULTIMATE eBay Find for Theater Lovers! From: Bruce Purdy Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <23f.81983ad.313edaf0 [at] aol.com> A friend just sent this to me, and I thought others on this list might be interested in seeing it: > Offered for sale, the former Schine Norwalk Theater in Norwalk Ohio. This > theater is currently operating and is the home of the Towne & Country Players. > They have a full stage, film and organ program in place. Take a look below > and PLEASE PASS THIS ON to anyone on your personal email list who may be > interested and can further pass it on. http://tinyurl.com/k68mg Bruce -- Bruce Purdy Technical Director Smith Opera House ------------------------------ Message-ID: <440E3A5C.1060207 [at] fredonia.edu> Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 20:58:52 -0500 From: "Stephen E. Rees" Reply-To: Rees [at] fredonia.edu Subject: Re: The ULTIMATE eBay Find for Theater Lovers! References: Bruce, I think the shipping might be exorbitant though! Steve Bruce Purdy wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > A friend just sent this to me, and I thought others on this list might be > interested in seeing it: > > >>Offered for sale, the former Schine Norwalk Theater in Norwalk Ohio. This >>theater is currently operating and is the home of the Towne & Country Players. >>They have a full stage, film and organ program in place. Take a look below >>and PLEASE PASS THIS ON to anyone on your personal email list who may be >>interested and can further pass it on. > > > http://tinyurl.com/k68mg > > Bruce ------------------------------ Message-ID: <440E3BA3.7080307 [at] iglou.com> Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 21:04:19 -0500 From: Garry Brown Subject: Re: Louisville restaurants References: In-Reply-To: ***Previously stated*** For all you USITTers who have never been to Louisville, I highly recommend Lynn's Paradise Cafe [984 Barret Ave] and the Irish Rover [2319 Frankfort Ave]. Both are a little bit away from the Convention Center, but both are definitely worth the trip. Lynn's is worth it for the decor alone, though the food is amazingly good as well. Its a little bit off of Bardstown Road, which I'm sure some of you will be trekking down at some point. The Rover is, by and far, my favorite Irish pub/restaurant I've been to. Great atmosphere in them both. Oops... that's what I get for skipping ahead on my e-mail for the day. Well, I can still offer local color as necessary.Over and over. Still looking forward to seeing everyone... Garry Brown ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 21:35:46 -0500 Subject: Re: The ULTIMATE eBay Find for Theater Lovers! From: Herrick Goldman Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Jesus!(no offense) I just paid more for my one bedroom condo! On 3/7/06 8:52 PM, "Bruce Purdy" wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > A friend just sent this to me, and I thought others on this list might be > interested in seeing it: > >> Offered for sale, the former Schine Norwalk Theater in Norwalk Ohio. This >> theater is currently operating and is the home of the Towne & Country >> Players. >> They have a full stage, film and organ program in place. Take a look below >> and PLEASE PASS THIS ON to anyone on your personal email list who may be >> interested and can further pass it on. > > http://tinyurl.com/k68mg > > Bruce -- Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com 917-797-3624 "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 21:46:25 -0500 Subject: Re: The ULTIMATE eBay Find for Theater Lovers! From: Bruce Purdy Message-ID: In-Reply-To: > Jesus!(no offense) I just paid more for my one bedroom condo! Boy Herrick, am I glad I don't live in NYC! How can anyone afford it? Anyway, that's the starting bid, not the "Buy it now" price. ;-) Bruce -- Bruce Purdy Technical Director Smith Opera House ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 22:21:10 -0500 Subject: Re: The ULTIMATE eBay Find for Theater Lovers! From: Herrick Goldman Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Yeah but I got all the fun stuff.....pizza at 3am.....random murders....you know.... La vida loca.... Oh yeah and theater..I gots that too.... On 3/7/06 9:46 PM, "Bruce Purdy" wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > >> Jesus!(no offense) I just paid more for my one bedroom condo! > > Boy Herrick, am I glad I don't live in NYC! How can anyone afford it? > Anyway, that's the starting bid, not the "Buy it now" price. ;-) > > Bruce -- Herrick Goldman Lighting Designer, NYC www.HGLightingDesign.com 917-797-3624 "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 22:22:50 -0500 Subject: Re: Digest Mode From: Bruce Purdy Message-ID: In-Reply-To: > A similar joke is: > > Is the second day of the week pronounced "Toos-day" or "Too-ezz-day"? The one I like is this: Ask someone to say the number "Ten" ten times as quickly as they can. (It isn't easy). As soon as they finish, say "Quickly, what is an aluminium can made out of?" Guaranteed, they will make a concious effort to avoid saying "Ten", but rather enunciate "Tin". You calmly reply "No, it's made of aluminium!" Bruce -- Bruce Purdy Technical Director Smith Opera House ------------------------------ Message-ID: <440E4E35.8010902 [at] cybercom.net> Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 22:23:33 -0500 From: Dale Farmer Organization: I'm working on that.... Subject: Re: Personal Protective Devices (was Chop Saws) References: In-Reply-To: Curtis L. Mortimore wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > > Why waste our time trying to save their ears from the saw when the minute > they leave the shop they've got the i-pod cranked to 11. Maybe we would be > better served teaching them ASL. > > Yep, the constant din in my head is pretty annoying. > > Thanks for listening... if you can hear me... > > > > What kind of HP does everyone use? > > I prefer the corded disposable plugs > http://www.discountsafetygear.com/holemaeaboxo.html > In my experience they can be re-used quite a few times as long as you keep > them clean, I've tried washing them but that doesn't seem to work to well. > The students don't seem to like them much and prefer muffs. > > When my wife bought a chainsaw I insisted on hearing protection and told her > to get whatever she wanted. The ear muffs she bought are best pair I've ever > worn. They are sold by Stihl and are super comfortable. > > How do you regulate usage in the shop? All the time? Only when using power > tools? Only when the boss is around? > > And can someone who knows ASL translate for Bill? :) > As an employer, you have to provide PPE, and have workplace rules requiring it's use by OSHA. (Other countries have similar rules) I regard PPE usage much like I regard seatbelt or motorcycle helmet use. It's the prudent thing to do, as when the inevitable happens, they probably will reduce the damage to your tender pink bod that bleeds so easily. If you fail to use the PPE that is available, then that is just another example of evolution in action, and you get little or no sympathy from me. --Dale ------------------------------ Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 22:48:16 -0500 From: "richard j. archer" Subject: Re: The ULTIMATE eBay Find for Theater Lovers! >For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see >--------------------------------------------------- > >> Offered for sale, the former Schine Norwalk Theater in Norwalk Ohio. This >> theater is currently operating and is the home of the Towne & >>Country Players. >> They have a full stage, film and organ program in place. Take a look below >> and PLEASE PASS THIS ON to anyone on your personal email list who may be >> interested and can further pass it on. > >http://tinyurl.com/k68mg Now let's see, how many of us are on this list Noah? 300--600? If we all chip in we could all meet at The Stagecraft List Theatre instead of at LDI or USITT and then visit Cedar Point. It's late--Dance Tech. Dick A TD, Cornell ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <690FB07D-896A-4B9F-87A6-633FEA3B30BD [at] theprices.net> From: Noah Price Subject: Re: The ULTIMATE eBay Find for Theater Lovers! Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 21:21:50 -0800 On Mar 7, 2006, at 7:48 PM, richard j. archer wrote: >>> Offered for sale, the former Schine Norwalk Theater in Norwalk >>> Ohio. ... >> http://tinyurl.com/k68mg > Now let's see, how many of us are on this list Noah? 300--600? > If we all chip in we could all meet at The Stagecraft List Theatre > instead of at LDI or USITT and then visit Cedar Point. It's late-- > Dance Tech. Over 1100 :-) If I could move it, I'd seriously consider organizing that effort :-) Noah ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <04B9BA51-39C3-47AC-8247-6FA527A63EBB [at] gmail.com> From: Andrew Vance Subject: Re: The ULTIMATE eBay Find for Theater Lovers! Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 23:31:34 -0600 On 07 Mar, 2006, at 23:21 , Noah Price wrote: >> Now let's see, how many of us are on this list Noah? 300--600? >> If we all chip in we could all meet at The Stagecraft List Theatre >> instead of at LDI or USITT and then visit Cedar Point. It's late-- >> Dance Tech. > Over 1100 :-) Not to wax nostalgic, but I can remember when there was the "contest" about who would be the 2000th subscriber; must have been 1999 or 2000. Where have all the subscribers gone? -- Sincerely, Andrew Vance Lighting Designer atvanceld [at] gmail.com ------------------------------ Reply-To: From: "Hall Associates Flying Effects" Subject: Re: Original vaudeville drops... Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 23:48:28 -0600 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Kevin Unfortunately, there is no online documentation of the collections, and when I was trying to find any kind of link to post to the list, I could only find a few isolated mentions of it on Google. I guess its our little secret :-) Ciao. Tracy Nunnally Technical Director / Assistant Professor of Theatre Technology Northern Illinois University School of Theatre and Dance 815-753-9342 - tnunnally [at] niu.edu President - Hall Associates Flying Effects 888-FLY HALL - tracy [at] flyingfx.com www.flyingfx.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 12:24:44 -0500 From: Kevin Lee Allen Subject: Re: Original vaudeville drops... In-reply-to: Message-id: References: Is this collection documented online? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 23:57:01 -0600 Subject: Re: The ULTIMATE eBay Find for Theater Lovers! From: Steve Jones Message-ID: In-Reply-To: My mind is hazy - but I think the "contest" was for the 1,000th subscriber. This was during my tenure as List Moderator. The 1K subscriber got a gift package of items donated by individuals and companies on the list. Everything from T-shirts to gift certificated for custom gobos to a gallon of Phlex Glue. Steve On 3/7/06 11:31 PM, "Andrew Vance" wrote: > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > On 07 Mar, 2006, at 23:21 , Noah Price wrote: >>> Now let's see, how many of us are on this list Noah? 300--600? >>> If we all chip in we could all meet at The Stagecraft List Theatre >>> instead of at LDI or USITT and then visit Cedar Point. It's late-- >>> Dance Tech. >> Over 1100 :-) > > Not to wax nostalgic, but I can remember when there was the "contest" > about who would be the 2000th subscriber; must have been 1999 or > 2000. Where have all the subscribers gone? > > -- > Sincerely, > > Andrew Vance > Lighting Designer > atvanceld [at] gmail.com > > > > ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <46585279-339D-4FBE-82EE-6EA811C86DAB [at] gmail.com> From: Andrew Vance Subject: Re: The ULTIMATE eBay Find for Theater Lovers! Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 00:55:55 -0600 On 07 Mar, 2006, at 23:57 , Steve Jones wrote: > My mind is hazy - but I think the "contest" was for the 1,000th > subscriber. > This was during my tenure as List Moderator. The 1K subscriber got > a gift > package of items donated by individuals and companies on the list. > Everything from T-shirts to gift certificated for custom gobos to a > gallon > of Phlex Glue. My mind must be hazy as well. [Note to self, never post when tired, sick, and after a full day tech nonsense.] I thought it was for the 2000th lister, but I could very well be mistaken. Anyway, that's better news than thinking 900 people left the list in the last 5 or so years. -- Sincerely, Andrew Vance Lighting Designer atvanceld [at] gmail.com ------------------------------ In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: From: Noah Price Subject: List Milestones (was Re: The ULTIMATE eBay Find for Theater Lovers!) Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 23:26:44 -0800 On Mar 7, 2006, at 9:31 PM, Andrew Vance wrote: > Not to wax nostalgic, but I can remember when there was the > "contest" about who would be the 2000th subscriber; must have been > 1999 or 2000. Where have all the subscribers gone? On Mar 7, 2006, at 9:57 PM, Steve Jones wrote: > My mind is hazy - but I think the "contest" was for the 1,000th > subscriber. Yup, that was 1,000 in October 1998. See below for a trip down memory lane. As far as I know, Stagecraft never passed about 1500 (but that would have been with Steve, it's not been much higher than now since moving to my server). We're actually nearing 1200 now, if I keep the counting simple and don't factor out a bunch of "inactive" (null) addresses that don't receive messages, a couple banned addresses, and some pending subscriptions from random spam that will expire soon. Noah > Subject: 1,000th SUBSCRIBER REACHED > From: Steven T. Jones > Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 19:29:50 -0500 > > It wasn't long ago that I mentioned that the Stagecraft Mailing > List had > hit the milestone of 900 subscribers. Well, on Tuesday, October > 20, 1998 > at 4:40 PM and 41 seconds, Central Time, our 1,000th subscriber > joined the > list! > > Our 1,000th subscriber is: > > BUDDY WILSON > > When I shared our reaching the 900th mark with the list, I jokingly > said I > would try to find a better prize for the 1,000th subscriber than > just a > lifetime subscription to the mailing list. Well, within minutes of > posting > that message, several vendors on the list contacted me with offers to > donate "prizes" to the lucky 1,000th subscriber. So - I contacted > all the > vendors on the list I could find to try and create a "prize > package" for > the winner. I was not disappointed! The generosity of these good > folks > was immense, and we assembled quite a nice prize for our winner, Buddy > Wilson. > > The prize includes: > > Courtesy of Bill Maiman and TCI: > One year free subscription or renewal to TCI > > Courtesy of Bill Sapsis and Sapsis Rigging: > One super leatherman > > Courtesy of Staree Markham and Stageworks Lighting, Ltd. > One mini Maglite > > Courtesy of Ellen White and ETC: > One ETC sweat shirt > One complete ETC binder of spec sheets > > Courtesy of David Rodger and Broadway Press: > Once copy each: > The Backstage Handbook > The Photometrics Handbook > The Stock Scenery Construction Handbook > > Courtesy of Ford Davis and Phlexglu: > One gallon of Phlexglu > > Courtesy of Roy Harline and Texas Scenic: > One T-shirt > > Courtesy of Andrew Nikel and Production Arts: > One T-shirt > > Courtesy of MeLinda Byerly and Rosco: > One piece of B size Image Glass (winner picks design) > > Courtesy of Andrew Mack and High Output: > One certificate good for an additional 10% discount after regular > discounting for a single order of consumables. > > > So - BUDDY WILSON - to claim your prize email me directly at > with a shipping address and > I'll send > the package on its way! > > And a BIG THANKS to those vendors who donated items! > > (Now - what can we plan for number 2,000? *grin*) > > Best wishes to all! > > Steve > ------------------------------ From: "Tony Deeming" Subject: RE: The ULTIMATE eBay Find for Theater Lovers! Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 08:34:42 -0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: It does say 'reserve not met....' > -----Original Message----- > From: Stagecraft [mailto:stagecraft [at] theatrical.net]On Behalf Of Herrick > Goldman > Sent: 08 March 2006 02:36 > To: Stagecraft > Subject: Re: The ULTIMATE eBay Find for Theater Lovers! > > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > --------------------------------------------------- > > Jesus!(no offense) I just paid more for my one bedroom condo! > > > On 3/7/06 8:52 PM, "Bruce Purdy" wrote: > > > For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see > > --------------------------------------------------- > > > > A friend just sent this to me, and I thought others on this > list might be > > interested in seeing it: > > > >> Offered for sale, the former Schine Norwalk Theater in Norwalk > Ohio. This > >> theater is currently operating and is the home of the Towne & Country > >> Players. > >> They have a full stage, film and organ program in place. Take > a look below > >> and PLEASE PASS THIS ON to anyone on your personal email list > who may be > >> interested and can further pass it on. > > > > http://tinyurl.com/k68mg > > > > Bruce > > -- > Herrick Goldman > Lighting Designer, NYC > www.HGLightingDesign.com > 917-797-3624 > "To the scores of silent alchemists who wreak their joy in darkness and in > light bringing magic to life, we bow most humbly. "-CDS > > > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <1192.208.51.52.105.1141808945.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 01:09:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Staff TD From: "Bill Nelson" > I was in academia for 13 years, and my advice is don't sell yourself > short. > If you work with students in technical theatre, then you teach. Doesn't > matter the classification or title. Or, to put it another way, teaching does not only occur in the classroom. Bill ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #720 *****************************