Return-Path: X-Scanned-By: RAE MPP/Clamd http://raeinternet.com/mpp X-Scanned-By: This message was scanned by MPP Lite Edition (www.messagepartners.com)! X-Real-To: stagecraftlist [at] theatrical.net Received: by prxy.net (CommuniGate Pro PIPE 4.2.10) with PIPE id 28134874; Fri, 03 Mar 2006 03:01:03 -0800 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on prxy.net X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,NO_RECEIVED, NO_RELAYS autolearn=unavailable version=3.1.0 X-ListServer: CommuniGate Pro LIST 4.2.10 List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Message-ID: From: "Stagecraft" Sender: "Stagecraft" To: "Stagecraft" Precedence: list Subject: Stagecraft Digest #714 Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 03:00:28 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline X-TFF-CGPSA-Version: 1.4 X-prxy-Spam-Filter: Scanned For info, archives & UNSUBSCRIBE, see --------------------------------------------------- Stagecraft Digest, Issue #714 1. Re: Give me those old time theatres (Was: Express (Soft patching)) by "Bill Nelson" 2. Re: Express (Soft patching) by "Idaho Scenic" 3. Re: Give me those old time theatres (Was: Express (Soft patching)) by "Don Taco" 4. Stain Free Stage Blood by "Matthew Jordan" 5. Re: Express (Soft patching) by Jim Hyslop 6. walking through walls by "kosteral [at] juno.com" 7. Re: walking through walls by Davy Davis 8. Working with Kids (was something else) by Brendan Quigley 9. Re: Adjusting mic eq by Jerry Durand 10. Re: Give me those old time theatres (Was: Express (Soft patching)) by "Occy" 11. Re: Adjusting mic eq by Jerry Durand 12. Re: walking through walls by "Delbert Hall" *** Please update the subject line of your reply to use the subject *** line of the message you are replying to! Please only reply to *** one message subject in each reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message-ID: <12966.69.59.200.119.1141355783.squirrel [at] webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 19:16:23 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Give me those old time theatres (Was: Express (Soft patching)) From: "Bill Nelson" > Now if we could only keep the patch panel in good working order. It's > kind of starting to look snaggle-toothed from all the circuit patching > pins which have been clipped off, due to non-working/dangerosly working > circuits. Anybody else still got a functioning hard patch panel, out of > curiosity? Yep. In of the two venues where I do most of my lighting designs still has a hard patch panel. Some designers use the 1:1 soft patch on the board and use the hard patch to get their circuit arrangements. Bill ------------------------------ Message-ID: <00e501c63e71$399d1420$6401a8c0 [at] amd2200> From: "Idaho Scenic" References:

Subject: Re: Express (Soft patching) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 20:18:58 -0700 to me, anybody under 50 is still a puppy Robert Riddle > >> I suddenly feel very old... > > > > Tell me about it. I think there comes a time in everyone's life when > > they'll be working with an adult and suddenly realize: "My god, if > > things had worked out differently, this could be my child." > > Heh, heh! > > That is the first time it happens. You must still be a youngster. Sooner > or later you realize that the adult you are working with is young enough > to have been your grandchild. > > Bill > ------------------------------ Message-ID: <00c301c63e73$91488d10$e28aaa43 [at] DonTaco> From: "Don Taco" References:

Subject: Re: Give me those old time theatres (Was: Express (Soft patching)) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 19:35:44 -0800 > > Yep. In of the two venues where I do most of my lighting designs still has > a hard patch panel. Some designers use the 1:1 soft patch on the board and > use the hard patch to get their circuit arrangements. > > Bill > Yep. And behind their backs, we giggle about 'fear of technology.' It's not an old-time telephone style or slider panel, though. It's a custom box with 20amp female twist-locks. (Pin-in, it's not that ancient). I remember when it was fabricated and installed. Some folks don't bother with a circuit arrangement. There's only 24 dimmers. You can remember what is on which knob pretty quickly. The soft-patch function is a quick, easy, versatile, and useful tool, however. I can grasp using it or not using it, depending on circumstances. What I can't grasp is pontificating that, 'No one else should use it, since I don't'. ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 22:35:44 -0500 From: "Matthew Jordan" Cc: pelo0031 [at] d.umn.edu Subject: Stain Free Stage Blood In-Reply-To: References:

> Dawn dish detergent and Hershey's chocolate syrup. >Don't put it on your ice cream.... You can vary the color by mixing hershey's strawberry syrup into the mix. I find it makes for a better looking stage blood. Matthew D. Jordan www.tmproject.com ------------------------------ Message-ID: <4407BA3C.9050300 [at] dreampossible.ca> Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 22:38:36 -0500 From: Jim Hyslop Organization: Dreampossible Inc. Subject: Re: Express (Soft patching) References:

In-Reply-To: Bill Nelson wrote: > That is the first time it happens. You must still be a youngster. Thank you. > Sooner > or later you realize that the adult you are working with is young enough > to have been your grandchild. I don't /think/ my 12-year-old son has been up to anything... -- Jim Hyslop ------------------------------ From: "kosteral [at] juno.com" Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 04:01:46 GMT Subject: walking through walls Message-Id: <20060302.200153.23743.400183 [at] webmail38.nyc.untd.com> OK, since you guys were so helpful with my recent Generic CAD for DOS qu= ery, here's another question: For an upcoming show we want to create a "wall" that characters can "wal= k through". The first materials that come to mind for constructing such= a thing are ~2" wide elastic or ~4" strips of spandex mounted verticall= y on a framework (each strip stretched very slightly and stapled into pl= ace, with strips overlapped slightly). = For anyone who has attempted this, any recommendations, pointers, pitfal= ls? Any sources for gobs of cheap elastic or spandex? Thanks in advance. Allison Koster LD/ATD Carleton College Northfield, MN ________________________________________________________________________= Try Juno Platinum for Free! Then, only $9.95/month! Unlimited Internet Access with 1GB of Email Storage. Visit http://www.juno.com/value to sign up today! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 21:16:36 -0700 From: Davy Davis Subject: Re: walking through walls Message-id: <6e02756dec5f.6dec5f6e0275 [at] du.edu> I did a show that had this happen about 20 years ago. The link is http://www.du.edu/thea/designs/Design-Medea.html The rear wall was created out of a white floor material, Rosco I think, cut into strips and stapled to a simple framework. It was a "solid" wall until walked through. Davy William Temple (Davy) Davis Chair, Department of Theatre University of Denver Denver, Co 80210 > > For an upcoming show we want to create a "wall" that characters > can "walk through". ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 23:25:00 -0500 From: Brendan Quigley Subject: Working with Kids (was something else) In-reply-to: Message-id: <07856A18-485E-407A-B192-3EFE5ACF97DC [at] earthlink.net> References: A couple of our StageCraft friends tapped: >> Tell me about it. I think there comes a time in everyone's life when >> they'll be working with an adult and suddenly realize: "My god, if >> things had worked out differently, this could be my child." > > Last year, my boss who retired and is less than 10 yrs. older than > me, was directing the child of a former student of his , and the > student was a senior. All I can add is this: I'm now touring with the SON of a great buddy of mine that I toured with in '86 ... we did KISS together ... it's the weirdest damn thing. To top it all off, the kid's really, REALLY good, and I'll probably be working for him one of these days .... Kind Regards, Brendan C. Quigley Head Electrician / Vari*Lite Technician WICKED - A New Broadway Musical ------------------------------ Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.0.20060302191827.01f70778 [at] interstellar.com> Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 19:21:06 -0800 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: Adjusting mic eq In-Reply-To: References:

At 07:13 PM 3/2/2006, you wrote: >I know it has me all aquiver! > >BTW, what kind of "computer voice business"? I designed the first mass-produced voice board for PCs. I also had the idea for a stereo record/playback board but the venture capitalists weren't interested "Who'd want to record and play back sounds with their computer?". I still have the first prototype of that board here. Later I co-founded Rhetorex which was sold a couple of years later. We made DSP-based voice boards. My most recent telecom board is a 2048 channel VoIP card. -- Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc. www.interstellar.com 219 Oak Wood Way, Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886 Skype: jerrydurand ------------------------------ Message-ID: From: "Occy" References:

Subject: Re: Give me those old time theatres (Was: Express (Soft patching)) Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 20:42:50 -0800 I agree... I would this show every year that I used 203 dimmers and used an ETC 48/96, with out soft patch it would have been a real PITA and when I ran out of sub masters I would start patching the the looks to the channels, as there was no time for cueing a one off. The rig went up that day and out after the show that night. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Taco" > The soft-patch function is a quick, easy, versatile, and useful tool, > however. I can grasp using it or not using it, depending on > circumstances. > What I can't grasp is pontificating that, 'No one else should use it, > since > I don't'. > > ------------------------------ Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.0.20060302192843.01f9a0e8 [at] interstellar.com> Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.0.20060302191827.01f70778 [at] interstellar.com> Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 19:29:56 -0800 From: Jerry Durand Subject: Re: Adjusting mic eq At 07:13 PM 3/2/2006, you wrote: >I know it has me all aquiver! > >BTW, what kind of "computer voice business"? Oh yes, back when I build that first board, my technician was a 15-year old. When I did the recent VoIP board, the project head was that same guy, now his own 17-year old! -- Jerry Durand, Durand Interstellar, Inc. www.interstellar.com 219 Oak Wood Way, Los Gatos, California 95032-2523 USA tel: +1 408 356-3886, USA toll free: 1 866 356-3886 Skype: jerrydurand ------------------------------ Message-ID: Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 05:42:18 -0500 From: "Delbert Hall" Subject: Re: walking through walls In-Reply-To: References: Cumberland County Playhouse's set for SCROOGE has a door (shutter) that has a spandex panel in it and the ghost of Marley walks through it. After he walks throught it, a 1/4" ply panel on the back of the door is shut, so that Scrooge can knock on the door, open it and inspect it, and it appears to be solid. The door is mounter perpendicular to the proscenium so as to help hide "parting" of the fabric when the actor walks through the door. Very cool effect. Delbert -- Delbert L. Hall ZFX Flying Director Phone: 714-585-7070 ------------------------------ End of Stagecraft Digest #714 *****************************